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The New Secularism

15 Jun 2007 10:06 am

Paul Waldman, in the Prospect:

In 1984, 7.3 percent of respondents answered "none" when the General Social Survey asked what their religious preference was. Twenty years later, nearly twice as many, 14.3 percent, gave the same answer. Of course, the number of non-religious people will varies depending on how you ask the question. (For instance, the National Election Studies asks respondents whether religion plays an important part of their lives; in 2004, 23 percent said no.) But however you define them, no one doubts that their numbers are increasing.

So the question now is whether non-believers will, in large numbers, begin to define themselves as a tribe of their own ... Whatever the answer is, the possibility does seem real for secularism to achieve a new awakening of its own as a political and social movement.

This dovetails - unsurprisingly, since we're looking at some of the same data - with my piece in the latest Atlantic, which you could read for the price of, say, two lunches at Subway if you felt like taking advantage of this only-for-blog-readers subscription deal. (But no pressure.) The argument, in short, is that just as the elite-level secularization of the 1960s and '70s (in the intelligentsia, the Courts, and the Democratic Party) produced backlash in the form of the religious right, so now that backlash has bred its own backlash, in the form of a mass secularism whose attitudes toward religion, politics, and church-state separation are more European than anything we've seen before in American political life. This, not the supposed right-wing religious revival that conservatives champion and liberals dread, is the newest new thing in American political life, and the trend that's likely to have the most impact on the culture wars over the next decade or so.

Comments (19)

There's a Baylor study bouncing around that suggests that the numbers of secularists in those studies is a good bit inflated. Plus, from Robert Putnam's work, it's clear that churchgoing as a mass phenomenon has been declining consistently from its historically very high levels in the late 1950s/early 1960s.

I'd suggest that what you have are a number of interrelated phenomena. First, you have a genuine, if rather slight, secularization as some number of people drop out of any kind of religious belief or practice (say, their parents were religious, but they aren't). (This is probably more pronounced in Catholicism and Mainline Protestantism than anywhere else). Plus, you have a shift of people from what used to be the establishment churches (Episcopal, liberal Presbyterian, Methodist, etc.) into more evangelical congregations. And, finally, you have - probably because of a combination of culture, politics, whatever - the emergence of a greater willingness on the part of some portion of the country to affirm positively that they have no religious belief at all.

Whether this turns into a mass anti-clerical sort of movement (on the line of 19th century French republicanism, for example) seems more doubtful to me. The problem is that however much some sectors of our intellectual, cultural, and media elite might be convinced (and try to convince us) that there is this large, threatening mass of religious "bogeymen" (and "bogeywomen" - wouldn't want to be sexist), America's religious landscape is profoundly fractured. To have an "enemy" around which to build a "tribe" is tough to do here, especially as the media's favorite Christian Right totems pass into death or obscurity. Note how really none of the viable candidates are running on the "I'm a religious conservative" identity ticket and that also none of them are running on the "Americans United for the Maginot-Line Separation of Church and State" ticket.

Isn't it a mistake to say that people with no particular religious affiliation are necessarily secular? There seems to be an awful lot of spiritual seekers out there who belong to no particular denomination, but still have some sort of religious belief.

In addition, I seem to remember religion sociologist Andrew Greeley (or mabye Martin Marty) pointing out that religous expression tends to be constant in America; the forms of religious expression are what shift.

“so now that backlash has bred its own backlash, in the form of a mass secularism whose attitudes toward religion, politics, and church-state separation are more European than anything we've seen before in American political life.”

Indeed, and complete with a plethora of’ atheistic prophetic tomes inspire the newly converted.

This counter/counter insurgency seems more notable for its sneer & jeer, than for its ability to engage serious inquiry.

“The argument, in short, is that just as the elite-level secularization of the 1960s and '70s (in the intelligentsia, the Courts, and the Democratic Party)”

This would be the counter culture priesthood of the intellectual. It is they who laid the foundation of “belief” (really more of an aesthetic – as they proudly acknowledge) for their zealous new minions.

What hasn’t occurred is any kind of reckoning within this priesthood. The leadership of the New Class seems to need a reformation (or perhaps just a council of Nicaea)

Selling thoughless hedonism and epicuruanism to secular urban sophisticates is easy; developing an ethical system fit for human thriving tends to be more difficult.

“Everybody gets to do whatever they want to do” - is precisely the opposite of an ethic.

Fitz, with the utmost respect, I'd suggest reading the dialogue between Andrew Sullivan and Sam Harris at Beliefnet for an example of a "new atheist" engaging serious inquiry. It's well worth a read (though very long)--check it out.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/209/story_20904.html

Dan Miller

By serious inquiry I meant inquiry into the ethical issues of our day (everything from bioethics to sexual morality) , not the engagement between the atheist and the believer.

Also, My “counter/counter insurgency” is shorthand for what Ross referenced as the “backlash has bred its own backlash, in the form of a mass secularism whose attitudes toward religion, politics, and church-state separation are more European than anything we've seen before in American political life.”

It is this “backlash” or “European style mass-secularization” that I find “sneering & jeering” and not “engaging in serious inquiry.” As opposed to the New Class that acts as its priesthood. (they do engage in such inquiry,- example- Mr Harris)

As far as the article you suggest, having Mr. Sullivan representing belief in such an exchange is less then edifying for a serious Christian.

I would suggest http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/mayweb-only/119-12.0.html

Infinitely more edifying

For years I have said that the best move we can make to defeat the radical feminists, gays, and whatever is to give each of them their own tv network. Exposure will surely kill them. The same is true for secularists. Once folks learn that all secularists are people who have made it and are enjoying themselves, then the balloon will burst.

Thanks,
Jim Mayhall
Lakeland FL

Whatever the answer is, the possibility does seem real for secularism to achieve a new awakening of its own as a political and social movement. Non-believers can now claim their first publicly open member of Congress (Pete Stark of California)

this is a bit off. stark is "a unitarian who does not believe in a supreme being." in other words, he is an atheist who is a member of a religion (unitarian-universalists are non-creedal and humanists/non-theists are a big proportion of the flock). additionally, most people who have "no religion" do believe in a god or supreme being. finally, there are many politicians who have no religious affiliation listed, e.g., earl blumenauer of portland. there is a good chance that some of these unspecified individuals are also atheists.

in any case as someone living in the state with the highest % of those with "no religion" (the biggest group according to the religious identification survey by CUNY in oregon) i can attest to the fact that being a minority makes religious people more ardent. people from the east coast have sometimes noted the co-existence of extreme apathy and ardency, as opposed to notional and nominal affiliation as is normative back east.

Secularization occurs when religion declines. Religion and religiosity obviously mean much more than a mere belief in a god or gods, let alone a mere belief (no matter how weak or inconsequential) in a supernatural "spirit" or "force" (no matter how vague and abstract). Religiosity is about religion, not mere "spirituality."

In addition to belief in a deity, other common manifestations of religion and religiosity include personal identification with a named religion; formal membership in a church or other religious organization; assent to a canonical set of religious doctrines or teachings; obedience to a set of religious personal behaviors, such as sexual behaviors or dietary behaviors; devotional activities like prayer or Bible study; attendance at regular religious services; participation in religious rituals or rites of passage like baptism; participation in formal religious education; participation in religious evangelism or missionary activity; donations of labor or money for religious purposes; and many others.

There is abundant evidence that religion, properly understood in this multi-dimensional sense as a diverse collection of distinctive beliefs and behaviors, has long been in decline in the west, including the United States.

I think some of the commenters are missing the point. The point isn't whether atheism is a religion or not, but rather what sort of a constituency there is for the removal of religion from public life.

My sense (albeit that of a city-dweller who spends a good deal of his time in academic settings) is that there is a constituency for this type of policy, though no more than 25-30% of the population, that has coalesced in emerging tech and information industries.

This is a rather interesting turn of historical events. In the 1960s, the secularizing elites (Courts, Democratic Party) lost touch with most people and these elites were seen as invasive, activist social engineers who were interfering in the lives of ordinary people. Now, however, with the social transformations wrought by the emerging tech and information industries (decreasing family sizes, new forms of consumerism and community, changes in family life), there is the sort of constituency that would demand the sort of agenda that the more secular parts of the Democratic Party support. Now, religious people are the ones seen as activists who want to run peoples' lives. This is why libertarians are seen as being back in play as a constituency.

The culture wars may cool down with Bush out of the way, but I don't think they will be cool for long. I think we may be moving towards a religious situation similar to that of France in the second half of the 19c--strongly religious and strongly secular parties (with very few neutrals) duking it out. I should note, however, that the religious groups in late 19c tended to be strongly monarchist which no major US denomination is.

There is abundant evidence that religion, properly understood in this multi-dimensional sense as a diverse collection of distinctive beliefs and behaviors, has long been in decline in the west, including the United States.

your definition is not inclusive of all religions, just the sort that has been normative in the west (at least officially) since the abolition of public paganism in late antiquity. to be specific, for example, you say: attendance at regular religious services. here you're conflating the abrahamic tradition with religion as such.

With all these backlashes and counter-backlashes, what's a sensible person to do? I don't think I'm particularly strange, but I:

1) Have a religious affiliation,
2) Was brought up attending church regularly,
3) Still have the same affiliation,
4) No longer attend church regularly, more because the church has changed than because I have, and
5) Would actually like to go back to the church as it used to be.

The religious right drives me bonkers, but the secularists seem to have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Religion is the basis for my ethical beliefs, including my belief that it is important to support gay rights. (I'm a post-boomer, and to me it is self-evident that religious organizations should support the dignity of people who were excluded and marginalized in the past. What would Jesus do?) You get the idea.

So the only question I have for all these backlashers is, are you finished yet? The two "tribes" are two sides of the same coin, and it's not a currency I'm keen to accept.

razib,

I wasn't suggesting that every item on the list is a feature of every religion, just that they are common examples of the complex set of beliefs, behaviors and institutions that comprise religion. The important point is that religion is a much more complicated phenomenon than just belief in a supernatural reality of some kind. Any serious discussion of changes over time in the amount of religion or degree of religiosity of a population must recognize this fact.

"I'm a post-boomer, and to me it is self-evident that religious organizations should support the dignity of people who were excluded and marginalized in the past. What would Jesus do?"

Of coarse!

"Religion is the basis for my ethical beliefs, including my belief that it is important to support gay rights."

What "right" did you have in mind?

The important point is that religion is a much more complicated phenomenon than just belief in a supernatural reality of some kind. Any serious discussion of changes over time in the amount of religion or degree of religiosity of a population must recognize this fact.

agreed. the "problem" is that the most vocal of the "new atheists" focus precisely on the truth value of supernaturalism as the crux of their activism.

What "right" did you have in mind?

The phrase "gay rights" usually refers to the right of gays to lead lives as normal as any heterosexual's. Its controversial aspects include the right to have sex, to marry, to adopt, and to be free from discrimination when seeking employment, or when seeking apartments.

the "problem" is that the most vocal of the "new atheists" focus precisely on the truth value of supernaturalism as the crux of their activism.

Maybe you don't really think this is a "problem," and I'm missing the point of your conversation. But why do we need a subtle take on any of this? I believe that many factual claims -- all the important ones -- made by religious people about their faith (or, if you like, their religion) are false. What's wrong with me writing a book about this? What's wrong with the books like this that have been written already and recently?

jenny

agreed. the "problem" is that the most vocal of the "new atheists" focus precisely on the truth value of supernaturalism as the crux of their activism.

Why's that a "problem?" And I think the primary target of the "New Atheists" is religion, not merely some kind of abstract supernaturalism that does not have any particular implications for human behavior or the claims of science (like evolution). I think they'd probably say that the latter kind of belief is unjustified, but harmless, or at least much less harmful than religion tends to be.

I have trouble taking Sullivan or Harris seriously as a dialogue worth listening to -- this is not Benedict and Habermas, where serious minds meet. Harris seems a little more amusing and less, perhaps, simply ignorant than Dawkins or Dennett*, but he isn't a mind to contend with, really -- and Sullivan is the pale vainglorious shadow of a once quite interesting writer.

* Dawkins seems to be a very solid and somewhat original man in his own scientific field (and a good popularizer, once his biases in metaphor are taken into account), but rather sketchy in his general education, due to an allergy to philosophy. I think Dennett's work is largely nonsense (and it's close to my own field), but again he has a strong intellect, and within his framework his work is also probably valuable. Harris is probably worse in one sense, in that his atheism is his true claim to fame -- he's not a scientist in dillettante mode.

Re: Religiosity is about religion, not mere "spirituality."

Which is why we should not confuse secularism with atheism or agnosticism. Secularism is a political tenet that argues for very strict separation of Church and State, something which even a devout religious person can agree to without contradiction.

Re: The culture wars may cool down with Bush out of the way, but I don't think they will be cool for long.

Which is why we should not confuse secularism with atheism or agnosticism. Secularism is a political tenet that argues for very strict separation of Church and State, something which even a devout religious person can agree to without contradiction.

Not sure I agree with this. While I expect abortion to remain a conterntious issue indefinitely, the rest of the Religious Right's larder is approaching its "Use by" date. Homosexuality is becoming increasingly acceptable, notably among the young and even the religious young. What new issues (bio-tech maybe?) will arise that the Religious Right can demagogue on? We've had long periods in the history of the US where moral issues were not on the front burner. I think we may see another such era beginning in about a generation or so, especially as the Boomers begin to pass from the scene and people FINALLY relegate the 60s to the history books where they belong. And we may have more important things to fret about (climate change and all that) as the century grows older. The Religious Right's list of issues (again, except for abortion) are controversies for people who don't have anything better to do with their time.

I don't know that this represents a sea-change in religious faith or in church attendance so much as in the acceptability of admitting the obvious. Part of that has to do with the skill with which the media has managed to link religious belief with the politics of Bush and the very public intolerance of Falwell and Robertson to make anything but sentimental religious faith an obstacle for acceptance among the learned. Part of that has to do with the success with which the right has grasped the mantle of religiosity, leading leftists to either seek out wishy-washy left-leaning churches like the Unitarians or the United Church of Christ (generally speaking) that are long on politics and short on faith or simply acknowledge that their failure to attend church evidences unbelief rather than the desire to reclaim Sunday mornings for slumber.


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