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Anti-Americanism, Again

29 Aug 2007 02:57 pm

Larison, on the Bourne question:

The first mistake anyone who flings the “anti-American” accusation makes is to equate the government with the society as a whole. If someone or something is critical of the U.S. government, it is very often deemed anti-American or, if the person doing the criticising is American, unpatriotic. This plays by the state’s rules: it makes patriotism dedication to the state, rather than the country, and it makes the state into the embodiment of America. This is simply not true, and it’s a very good thing at times that this isn’t true. That doesn’t mean that the citizens don’t have some small part to play in the dreadful policy decisions made by the state (it is our government, after all), but the decisions being taken in Ultimatum are the sort that the public is never supposed to know about because the average citizen of this country would still probably be horrified at ordering the deaths of foreign journalists in the name of protecting some part of the behemoth security state.

Okay, but let's not take this too far. For instance, I would submit that a film like Braveheart (which, like the Bourne movies, I'm very fond of) qualifies as obviously "anti-English" even though it's technically only critical of the English government and military, or that the infamous Valley of the Wolves is an anti-American movie even though it mainly concerns itself with the wickedness of certain American soldiers (and evil Jewish-American doctors, of course). Obviously, the phrase "anti-American" is at once loaded and nebulous, but I think that it's fair to say that any film that leaves the audience with an overwhelmingly and cartoonishly negative impression of a particular nation qualifies as "anti" that nationality, whether that impression is primarily formed through a representation of that nation's government or not. I take Daniel's point, and Chris's, that the Joan Allen-Julia Stiles axis may offer enough of an alternative vision of what an American is to get The Bourne Ultimatum off the hook in this regard, but I think it definitely tiptoes toward anti-American territory more than its predecessors, by being more cartoonish in its depiction of the pervasiveness - as opposed to just the presence - of naked, self-aware evil within the U.S. bureaucracy.

Comments (24)

This is getting silly. Are not the heros of the films also Americans? Do not the heros prevail in the end?

It would seem to me these types of films are ultimately extremely pro-America, the message basically being that our system is ultimately good and even eveil conspiracies in the highest levels of government are defeated by other Americans. I'd say that given what we know about CIA evil doing in the past if anything the current conspiracy films like Bourne are if anything hopelessly naive and upbeat about the power that good Americans have to overcome evil plots within the government. Heck a Bourne like movie version of Iran/Contra would have a heroic Ollie North uncovering the plot and stopping it:-)

Contrast with the more arguably anti-American, pessimistic consipiracy films of the 70s. In them the hero (usually Warren Beatty, Robert Redford, Gene Hackman, etc) fails and the machine goes on.

Apparently anti-Americanism is in the eye of the beholder, because I left the theater thinking to myself "gee, I'm glad even when systemic evil overcomes a large government agency, a small handful of (incredibly attractive) brave Americans will risk their lives to expose the corruption." The film struck me as an affirmation of a pro-American fantasy––small group of courageous Americans take on systemic evil and win. It was almost cartoonishly pro-American.

Hollywood has always had a hierarchy of institutional evil, with the evil to good continuum running from the CIA at the far edge of pure evil (except in Tom Clancy movies), the DEA generally pretty bad, the Army, Navy, and Air Force in the middle, the FBI pretty good, local cops good (especially if they are loose cannons) even if the department was corrupt or bureaucratic, and the Marines just totally huggable. A lot of this had to do with how much cooperation the institutions gave movie productions, with the FBI and the Marines being complete publicity whores, while the CIA never cooperated at all with movie-makers until this decade.

The other angle is that Hollywood has always envisioned CIA men as thin-lipped, soulless uber-WASPs, even though the CIA long had a Catholic element. For example, in Matt Damon's previous movie, The Good Shepherd, his character is based on James Jesus Angleton, who was in reality half-Mexican (hay-zoos) and was one of the more bizarre and fascinating personalities in American history. Yet, the movie portrays Damon's Angleton-character as the most boring person ever, even more dull than all the other WASPs. Indeed, the whole point of The Good Shepherd (which seems not as critical about the CIA's role as it could have been) was that WASPs are boring. So, ethnic rivalry among American elites has long played a role in how Hollywood portrays the CIA.

Dave, you said it much more pithilly than I did, well put.

Eric K writes: "Contrast with the more arguably anti-American, pessimistic consipiracy films of the 70s. In them the hero (usually Warren Beatty, Robert Redford, Gene Hackman, etc) fails and the machine goes on."

Well, there's also "Soylent Green," which can't be beaten for bleak.

But "Three Days of the Condor" ends ambiguously. I suppose it says something about where you are on the spectrum if you hope the NYT publishes the story or quashes it.

I'm disposed to think many Bush supporters root for the warden in prison movies, but that may not be true.

To paraphrase Al Franken: Liberals love America like adults love their parents--with an appreciation for their flaws but an admiration of their strengths. Conservatives love America like four year-olds love their parents, which makes mommy and daddy good and anyone who criticizes them bad.

Of course smart people don't confuse a govt with a country, as Larison says. But most people aren't attuned to these parsings, and when the average person abroad sees this flick, he's thinking a) it's close to true and b) if the CIA is this bad then so too is the nation it claims to protect.

also - any word on the next Hollywood project depicting Chinese, Iranian or Russian intel at work?

chris asks: "also - any word on the next Hollywood project depicting Chinese, Iranian or Russian intel at work?"

I take it you've never seen "24."

Makes you wonder....if V For Vendetta had been set in America would it be debated over in the same way? After all, that movie took the microcosm of the secret CIA Treadstone program and applied to the entire government (albeit a British Government), which was in pursuit of the same supposedly noble purpose: National Security.

In both cases, it is again the very same ideals (personal freedom from the Government, respect for liberty and justice, and freedom of information) that prevails in the end.

Who cares what good came out of either organization? Both movies' naratives begin long after such questions were pondered and affirmed, and both movies deal with the ramifications of such policies in the end game.

Something is missing from this argument. Isn't the real problem shrill, loony anti-Americanism? "Anti-Americanism" isn't necessarily a philosophy writ-large. Nor need it be reflexive; it can come a la carte. Anyone who can think not named Romney dislikes certain aspects of American life, from the spitting to the gluttony to the torture to Nascar...it goes on. And rightly. What a stale country we'd have if everything "American" were sacred. I'm quite glad to live in a country where there is no consensus in favor of anything taste-related. (I do wish we all believed in Evolution though.)

Now, I guess the question comes down to whether what one is criticising is American at its essence or just by the way. Is torture, for example, more fundamentally American or illiberal? America does torture people, but I don't think anti-torture folks are motivated by anti-Americanism so much as liberalism, broadly defined. America potentially could come to stand for any number of ideas, many of which might require radical opposition. So it is wrong to judge things from some criteria of its being American. That said, I will defend to the death the enlightment values of Jefferson, Hamilton, Franklin, and Madison. Also those of Newton, Spinoza, Hume, Locke, Hobbes, Mill, and Darwin. Luckily, the American experiment is an experiment in the enlightenment values of republicanism, secularism, constitutionalism, etc. In that sense, I am very much pro-American.

I will always enjoy Bowie's lyric "It's on America's tortured brow/Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow" even though it is rather plainly anti-American. Forceful critiques of American life should not be discouraged because we can always move reality a little closer to our ideals.

chris: "But most people aren't attuned to these parsings, and when the average person abroad sees this flick, he's thinking a) it's close to true and b) if the CIA is this bad then so too is the nation it claims to protect. "


Ross and some others are missing a rather important thing - this *is* what the CIA does, and at least half of the American people are quite happy with it (at least until an Evul Demonokrat steals the White House from it's rightfulowners).

Steve Sailer mentions the Clancy movies. I'm glad you brought that up. Clear and Present Danger is about the Deputy Director of the CIA, with the President's knowledge, operating a secret, illegal war against a Columbian drug cartel. Then, when it looks like their cover might be blown, they leave the Marines in Columbia for dead. Why isn't this an anti-American movie?

Well, there's also "Soylent Green," which can't be beaten for bleak.

Coming Summer 2008:

The Bourne Indigestion

"Jason Bourne is made of people! He's people!"

The anti-Americanism in BU lies in the fact their is no context to the reason behind Treadstone. In fact, they subvert the very premise by having someone who looks like AQ; a Moroccan, as a CIA
bombmaker; a little tilt toward trooferism, in my view. RE; V for Vendetta, this takes the rogue government faction to the ultimate extreme; that a political faction not unlike the BNP would stage
a WMD attack in order to seize power; Reichstag style (Ironically, the film was filming near the London underground, around the time of July 7th
bombings). Soylent Green was just Ehrlich taken to the ultimate extreme (I know it was it was a
Harry Harrison story done in the 60s pre Ehrlich; but that was the way it was portrayed in film)

"...In fact, they subvert the very premise by having someone who looks like AQ; a Moroccan, as a CIA bombmaker; ..."

Must be propaganda; after all, any competant spy agency would hire a blond-haired, blue-eyed nordic type (at least 6' 3" in height) to skulk around in N. Africa killing people.

Okay, so even in Tom Clancy movies, the Marines are better than the CIA!

(From reading the book a long time ago, though, I thought it was the National Security Advisor who was the bad guy. Didn't James Earl Jones play the head of the CIA? He couldn't be bad, even less than Morgan Freeman can be bad. There are _rules_ about these sort of things in movies, dammit. You know, like the blonder the man, the more evil he is.)

Didn't James Earl Jones play the head of the CIA? He couldn't be bad, even less than Morgan Freeman can be bad. There are _rules_ about these sort of things in movies, dammit.

James Earl Jones was Darth Vader and Thulsa Doom, which I think is more than enough villainy for one career. Then again, it was a white guy inside the Darth Vader costume, so I'm not quite sure how to score that one.

As I recall, the special forces unit in Clear and Present Danger were Army Rangers. The DDO was just
a tool of the National Security Advisor, who is based on Poindexter. Ironically, such anoperation did go on in Colombia in 1992-1993 against Pablo Escobar; it ended right before the Movie version came out. As to the Moroccan, the idea is to associate the CIA with the bomb making and block
out the nature of the actual bombmakers; who have been active in Rabat and Casablanca if not Tangiers at last recollection. Black Briar into which Treadstone was folded into; Webb joined up years before 9/11. Remember Webb became Bourne joined in '99; through what appears to be warmed over MK-ULTRA tactics carried out from a suite of buildings that might as well be in the vecinity
of the Twin Towers.

James Earl Jones was Deputy Director of Intelligence, whereas the bad guy, Ritter, was Deputy Director of Operations. James Earl Jones was hospitalized with cancer, and I Jack Ryan was brought in to be Deputy Director of Intel in his absence.

The special forces team may well have been Rangers.

But I still wonder why the Bourne movie is so easily branded anti-American while something such as C&PD is not.

The real bad guy was Admiral Cutter, the national security advisor; who cut off communications and
aircover to the ranger unit in the middle of a firefight! because he yielded to the cartel's blackmail. Ritter was his toady, a really supercilious bureaucrat who doesn't act all like
a Ops chief. Ryan's obligation's were to the men
he provided the funding for; not the CYA bureacrats like Cutter, Ritter, & the President himself. In contrast, Bourne is using his own guilt to sabotage the very programs he joined and
we probably still need.It blanks out the real threat we face, not only in Iraq and Afghanistan
but all around the world. This is the crucial distinction between the film and the prose Bourne.
He takes missions, despite his real private pain
(he lost his family in Thailand) because he knows
no one else can do it (draw out Carlos, then a copycat assassin in China, then challenge elements
of the secret paramilitary band he joined in Vietnam. In this he is more like Jack Bauer; with
the multiple casaulties in his family, his friends & associates

How about Rennie Harlan's "A Kiss Before Dying"? There a CIA assassin clearly states that the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center was staged by the CIA in order to scare Congress into expanding the Agency's budget. The whole plot revolves around an attempt, foiled by another assassin (Geena Davis) who has lost her memory and has since developed a social conscience through motherhood, to stage a second, even more spectacular, fake terrorism strike in order to get even more money out of Congress. The film also makes it clear that the White House, indeed the President himself, is fully aware of what the CIA is up to and approves.

D.B. "That's Long Kiss Goodnight" one of those overpriced screenplays by Shane Black; that has
become a popular offering; overseas particularly
in the Middle East. Wonder why. The real life allusion, was to an Agency man in Khartroum under consular cover who gave Sheik Rahman (Evil Blind
Santa) a visa to NY. There was nothing suspicious
about it; he had been part of the MAS office that
Bin laden had set up in Peshawar; with satellite
offices in Brooklyn. At the time we were not aware of AQ; although Hekmatyar was clearly on the radar screens of everyone from Tim Weiner to
P.J. O'Rourke.

Shane's other seminal contribution, The Lethal Weapon posited the Christic Institute conspiracy theories; later taken up by the late Gary Webb;
as the source of the conflict against the Gibson/
Glover cop duo. Christics were the truthers of their spreading their screed on TV (Miami Vice, Cagney & Lacey, that last season of Wiseguy) film
(Above the Law, Lethal Weapons, Last of theFinest)Even a graphic novel; helmed by future
superstar Alan Moore (Brought to Light) Black's bete noire; The Shadow Company, was headed
by their CO; General Peter McCallister; who would end up at the WASP patriarch on Dharma & Greg. The dark menace came from "Joshua" a sadistic
assasin played by born again motocycle Gary Busey, whose also lent his talent to the viciously
antisemitic and antiamerican "Valley of the Wolves, along with former Titanic villain Billy Zane.

I sincerely look forward to the day when narciso starts posting in expository prose. The Gysin-Burroughs cut-up stuff is interesting but doesn't really work here.

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