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They Put the "S" in USA

02 Aug 2007 12:12 pm

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Seeing the above image attached to Todd Vanderwerff's list of his five favorite Simpsons episodes (which unaccountably fails to include "Homer Vs. The Eighteenth Amendment") reminded me of this Peter Suderman remark from last week:

... unlike, say, The Sopranos, The Simpsons loves its subjects--ordinary Americans of all stripes--anyway. And after all the attention and success the country has lavished on the show, it ought to. After 18 years and more than 400 episodes, the show has risen to become more than just a whip-smart pop pastiche, but a cultural paradigm, almost certainly the most comprehensive representation of American life in the last three decades. It's not much of a stretch to say we're all Simpsons now.

The Sopranos and The Simpsons are vastly different, all right - but they're different in the sense of being opposite sides of the same coin, or tragic and comic masks placed over the same face. As a result, their similarities are legion: Both depict families - and particularly patriarchs - who are at once dysfunctional and enormously appealing; both begin with the domestic sphere and then open outward into a panorama of American society; both use what seem like egregious stereotypes in the service of a social realism that few other shows can match. Then there are the endless cracked-mirror plotlines: Compare Grandpa Simpson's nursing home experience to Livia Soprano's, say, or Homer's lesson in tolerance to Tony's reckoning with Vito's homosexuality, or Sideshow Bob's attempts to reintegrate into mainstream society to Tony Blundetto's post-prison experience, or Feech La Manna's. When cultural historians look back on the turn-of-the-century America, these are the first two shows they should watch. It's all there - first as tragedy, and then as farce.

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Or rather, in this case, first as farce and then as tragedy. It's chronologically accurate, plus a better encapsulation of American history. (Europe is where they do the tragedy first.)

Very astute. Matt Groening is Aristophanes and David Chase is Sophocles.

By the way, I'm reading your book, it's brilliant. I'll have it finished before dinner (I began this morning).

The Simpsons is indeed the most comprehensive representation of white American life out there. But it has almost nothing to say about the lives of America's large Mexican and black minorities. When it comes to race The Simpsons is a big black hole.

What do you mean the Simpsons doesn't address race? When I think of the detailed descriptions of Carl and Bumblebee Man's inner lives, it occurs to me that they are the real stars of the show. Like Falstaff, their characters simply grew too compelling to be contained.

"As a result, their similarities are legion: Both depict families - and particularly patriarchs - who are at once dysfunctional and enormously appealing"


What exactly is appealing about the characters in the sopranos???? seriously, I don't understand it.
and its not just you. everyone refers to them as likable. I feel so sleezy watching it. it puts me in a bad mood. yet I watch it because its so well made. but every character is repulsive.

The Simpsons is indeed the most comprehensive representation of white American life out there. But it has almost nothing to say about the lives of America's large Mexican and black minorities.

There *is* a fair amount of overlap between the two.

Both depict families - and particularly patriarchs - who are at once dysfunctional and enormously appealing;

Yes, and it has gotten to be a bore.

I am not one of these Simpsons poopooers who seem to think they deserve some kind of credit for being too snobby to like the show, but at the same time, can we cut it with the highbrow crap already? You can see intellectuals everywhere reaching for that perfectly succinct bon mot to describe The Simpsons, and it's pretty damned silly. It's a funny show, and lots of people like it. Trying to fish into the depths of why it's a good show, particularly in this manner, is likely to only turn up absurdities.

The experience of white families cannot be qualitatively different than the experience of Latino and Afro-American families. Are we not all human beings and Americans first, and members of ethnic groups second? To speak of variations one must speak of Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Italians, West African descendants of slaves, modern-day African and Carribean immigrants, descendants of Latinos who lived in the Southwest before the US conquest of the region, Irish, Scots, Poles, Germans, Chinese, Japanese, Indians, Pakistanis, Russians, and the scores of other waves from all of humanity who came to America. I think the Simpsons does a good job of lampooning the gross average in the mainstream Simpsons family itself and then satirizing and celebrating the ethnic diversity of the country in its true scope - not dividing us into three generic racial classes like many people seem to want to do.

In other words, there is no true majority or even plurality "ethnicity" in America - only an invented one. There are only minorities. This has almost always been the case.

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hi dad

you are in the simpsons and the simpsons are going
to help you when you need it. A gun is in homer
hand so on a big day . I like spider pig he is cool so love is coming from the simpson and homer
wants you to be a character in the simpsons


bye bye bye

hi dad

you are in the simpsons and the simpsons are going
to help you when you need it. A gun is in homer
hand so on a big day . I like spider pig he is cool so love is coming from the simpson and homer
wants you to be a character in the simpsons


bye bye bye

hi dad
you are in the simpsons and the simpsons are going
to help you when you need it. A gun is in homer
hand so on a big day . I like spider pig he is cool so love is coming from the simpson and homer
wants you to be a character in the simpsons

bye bye bye

- dumb

hi dad
you are in the simpsons and the simpsons are going
to help you when you need it. A gun is in homer
hand so on a big day . I like spider pig he is cool so love is coming from the simpson and homer
wants you to be a character in the simpsons

bye bye bye

- dumb

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