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14 Sep 2007 10:38 am

I started out a big Sarah Silverman fan, but I don't know ... I think it's enough already. The obligatory New Yorker profile called her brilliantly-conceived comic persona "quiet depravity", but I think "naive depravity" describes it better. At her best, Silverman plays the nice Jewish girl from a nice bourgeois family who remains blissfully unaware that she's a terrible, terrible person. It's hard to describe why this persona works so well; better to just quote it in bulk, as the New Yorker's Dana Goodyear wisely did:

“I’m just sensitive,” she says onstage. “My skin is paper thin. People don’t realize it, because I’m sassy and I’m brassy, but I just— I see these care commercials with these little kids with the giant bellies and the flies, and these are one- and two-year-old babies, nine months pregnant, and it breaks my heart in two.”

As the audience reacts, she presses on. “It breaks my heart in half. And I don’t give money, because”—out of the side of her mouth—“I don’t want them to spend it on drugs, but I give. You know I give. I, this past summer, sent fifteen really fun cowl-neck sweaters to this village in Africa, in really fun colors—expecting nothing, by the way—and they culled their money together, whatever they call it, and bought a stamp and sent me a postcard thanking me, and it said thank you and that they had enough sweaters for every single member of the village to get one and that they were delicious.”

...In another of her bits, she invokes the events of September 11th: “They were devastating. They were beyond devastating. I don’t want to say especially for these people, or especially for these people, but especially for me, because it happened to be the same exact day that I found out that the soy chai latte was, like, nine hundred calories. I had been drinking them every day. You hear soy, you think healthy. And it’s a lie.”

Now obviously this sort of act doesn't translate all that well to the kind of things that really successful comics are asked to do - like, say, host award shows. But I still think it's instructive, and a little depressing, to contrast the Silverman routine quoted above with her now-famous takedowns of Paris Hilton (at the '06 VMAs) and Britney Spears (at this year's edition).

First, Paris:

"In a couple of days, Paris Hilton is going to jail. The judge says that it's going to be a no-frills thing and that is ridiculous. She is totally going to get special treatment.

As a matter of fact, I heard that to make her feel more comfortable in prison, the guards are going to paint the bars to look like penises. I think it's wrong, too. I just worry that she's going to break her teeth on those things."

Then, Britney:

"This is so exciting. Was that incredible? Britney Spears, everyone. Wow, she is amazing. I mean, she is 25 years old, and she has already accomplished everything she’s going to accomplish in her life. It’s mind-blowing.

And she’s so grown up, she’s a mother. It’s crazy. It’s weird to think that just a few years ago on this very show, she was a sweet, innocent girl in slutty clothes writhing around with a python. No, that’s not nice calling Madonna a python.

But have you seen Britney’s kids? Oh, my God, they are the most adorable mistakes you will ever see. They are so cute. They are as cute as the hairless vagina they came out of."

In the routine quoted in the New Yorker, Silverman says horribly shocking and offensive things, but the jokes are designed to turn back on her: She's using starving children in Africa and the victims of 9/11 as the props in her act, but she isn't asking you to laugh at them; she's asking you to laugh at her. The same goes for her racist jokes: When she says, "Everybody blames the Jews for killing Christ ... and then the Jews try to pass it off on the Romans. I’m one of the few people that believe it was the blacks," the joke isn't on black people, it's on Sarah Silverman.

But there's nothing that's distinctively "Sarah Silverman" about her Britney and Paris-bashing jokes, save for the naive demeanor in which they're delivered. Indeed, you could imagine them being told by almost any comedian, and the only thing that gives the lines any real frisson is the fact that the targets of her ridicule are there to hear it. By laughing at them, all you're doing is laughing at a clever woman's takedown of a pair of dumb women - insult comedy practiced against a defenseless target. There are jokes to be found in this sort of thing, but at their best they're just a more savage version of a Leno monologue. Silverman is brilliant at playing a bitch; it's shame to see her fishing for laughs by being one.

Comments (27)

She’s helping pioneer the post modern comedic style of ironic detachment. A similar approach is used on the popular show Its always sunny in Philadelphia”

Ultimately such comedy ends up critiquing most viciously the modern secular urban sophisticate. Its hard to satirize some other world; in order for comedy to be effective you need to satirize the world around you. Seinfeld also did this (less crassly) and skewered the modern, narcissistic, shallow urban dweller.

“but she isn't asking you to laugh at them; she's asking you to laugh at her. The same goes for her racist jokes: When she says, "Everybody blames the Jews for killing Christ ... and then the Jews try to pass it off on the Romans. I’m one of the few people that believe it was the blacks," the joke isn't on black people, it's on Sarah Silverman.”

More properly Ross… the jokes on us.
We are laughing at ourselves..
{as reflected in Silverman.}
We are laughing at the absurdity through which the post-modern first world-er approaches authentic moral demands.

I agree! But the Britney and Paris-bashing doesn't skewer the modern, narcissistic, shallow urban dweller ... it makes the modern, narcissistic, shallow urban dweller feel good about not being a stupid trampy celebrity.

Ross,
Generally speaking, I think you are right. But I also think its also a matter of venue or medium. Are viewers of an award show more likely to be entertained by the ironic Sarah Silverman, or the cruel Sarah Silverman? I think the latter is the case. You hinted at this, but I think it adequately describes her act. For example, her persona in her show resembles the ironic Sarah Silverman, not the award show Sarah Silverman.

Its sickening to me to hear that someone on TV referred to someone else's children as "mistakes".

I'm not a follower at all of popular culture, so I don't understand where all the hostility toward Brittany Spears comes from. It seems a little bizarre.

Paris and Britney aren't just defenseless. They're indefensible. Silverman's act is funny because it transgresses the modern taboo against applying stigma.

If you think, as I do, that those two deserve stigma for harming themselves, those close to them, and society, then the joke is additionally funny for being true and cleverly phrased and delivered.

If, on the other hand, you are against being 'judgmental,' you could still see the joke as typically Silvermanesque, showing by her transgression "i'm a metaphor for how petty pampered urbanites are," and potentially funny for that reason.

Jim, the hostility against Paris, Britney and others is because they are high-profile, super-rich libertine hedonists who became famous because of, not despite, their moral failings.

No, Gyrd, Sarah Silverman's act at VMA was just piling on Britney while Brit was at her nadir. I'm not a fan, but Britney, for all her transgressions against teh kewls and whatnot, is a fucking trainwreck. Brit wasn't being being an arrogant, spoiled twat at VMA; she was pathetic. Not exactly throwing stones at ivory towers, is it? If Britney's not on suicide watch, then somebody isn't keeping a close eye on things.

Silverman went for the cheap laugh because she's, well, cheap. She may have found the right angle for turning pettiness inside-out, to make it seem like she's the ironic foil to her own jokes, but that doesn't make her profound, funny, or a populist hero. She kicked a person when she was down simply because the person she was kicking was at one time more famous. Wow! Nicely played, Sarah.

I understand the desire to analyze pop culture in this way, but the way I view it is this:

Is the comedian funny? Are the jokes mostly funny?

In Silverman's case, I think the answer is yes, even as Ross is right, and that's all that we should expect from our vapid enertainment industry. Not worth going much deeper.

Same reason I like Borat, even as Steve Sailor is exactly right about it.

Ross, I have to agree that insult comedy seems beneath Silverman's cleverness---a sort-of dumbing-down of her usual stuff---but her jokes have to be taken in the context of the audience she's talking to (as Rickm points out). While the observant few would make the distinctions you make in your post, to most people she's a comedian who isn't afraid to tackle any topic/taboo, and doesn't care about who it offends (i.e., cruel Sarah Silverman). So to the unobservant masses (like the audience at MTV awards), her insults of Britney and Paris seem normal.

But this leads to another thought: I think her style is slowly moving from the clever jokes---where she wraps typically offensive statements in comedic form such that they seem inoffensive---to a more in-your-face, "did-she-just-say-that?" type humor. Just look at her routine in The Aristocrats. I think years of "getting away" with saying some pretty offensive stuff (and I'm not accusing her of holding those beliefs, I like her as a comedian) has moved her towards trying to see how far she can push her comedy.

Has anyone here ever heard of Don Rickles?

Seriously, this stuff isn't new.

I'm ambivalent about Silverman, but I should point out that the account of her Britney line quoted above is inaccurate. The first joke was actually:

"I mean, she is 25 years old, and she's already accomplished...everything she’s going to accomplish in her life."

It's still a bit cruel, but at least now you can see that there's a joke there. The pause after "accomplished" is absolutely essential to the joke, because if the sentence ended there, it'd be slightly complimentary. The humor comes from the redirection into the opposite. As it's been quoted in several sources, it's just a mean put-down. Correctly quoted, it's a funny mean put-down. World of difference.

Paris Hilton went to jail this year; therefore, I believe Silverman's denunciation of her is from this year's MTV Movie Awards, not from the VMAs at all. (I don't watch these things, but facts about them somehow end up in my brain.)
Mainly I agree with Gyrd, except that I doubt Sarah Silverman's personal moral standards are that much higher than Paris's or Britney's, so who is she to criticize?

The tendency of politically correct critics to develop meta-justifications for politically incorrect comics like Sara Silverman and Dave Chappelle -- "They're not getting laughs from ethnic stereotypes, they're, uh, getting us to laugh at the stereotypicality of the stereotypes, you see. It's all very meta" -- might be pretty funny if the comedians themselves sometimes didn't fall for this nonsense.

The Jewish comedians like Baron Cohen and Silverman generally know how to play this game. Silverman, for example, occasionally throws in an intentionally stupid, untrue racial stereotype ("Mexicans smell bad") so all the nice white liberals in the audience can pretend her other stereotypes ("Asians are good at math") are dumb too, and that they are actually laughing at all those idiots conservatives who believe Asians are good at math, as if there is any such thing as race. Or math, for that matter.

But at least Silverman will occasionally tell the kind of Jewish joke that other Jewish comedians won't. Her best is:

"I got in trouble for saying the word “Ch*nk” on a talk show, a network talk show. It was in the context of a joke. Obviously. That’d be weird. That’d be a really bad career choice if it wasn’t. But, nevertheless, the president of an Asian-American watchdog group out here in Los Angeles, his name is Guy Aoki, and he was up in arms about it and he put my name in the papers calling me a racist, and it hurt. As a Jew—as a member of the Jewish community—I was really concerned that we were losing control of the media."

The tragic case is Chappelle, who actually fell for the critics' wheeze that he wasn't poking fun at blacks, no, he was exposing the stereotypes held by bigoted white people who thought about blacks in the way Chappelle portrayed them. Then one day, a white man on his set laughed so hard, in such an un-meta way, that Chappelle finally realized that the whole meta theory was just white jive to justify laughing at funny black people. So, Chappelle ran off to South Africa and walked out on his $50 million contract.

I think the real reason Chappelle bailed on Comedy Central was that he couldn't take the pressure. He had set a high bar for himself and I think he was worried he wouldn't be able to continue coming up with material at that level.

Sarah's act is pure assholism. I can't stand assholism, it's one reason that America is crumbing.

I can't stand Sarah's show because it's sole purpose is to ligitimize assholism. And it's NOT funny.

It's NOT funny.

They may do and say funny stuff sometimes, and you may want to laugh, but laughing at an assholic is just cruel. Help the assholic lick asshole instead.

I'm unaware of Sailer's Chappelle claim. Does anyone have any evidence?

Klug,

Sailer's alluding to comments Chappelle made on Oprah's show (see here and here). While probably a big part of his decision, there may have been other factors as well.

You guys are just all WAY overintellectualizing this stuff.

If you have to run a joke through your internal editors before you can allow yourself to decide it is funny or not, you just don't get humor. It is visceral.

It isn't even new, none of it.

The only person in these comments who really gets it is the person who gave a nod to Don Rickles.

Women aren't funny, period.

"Jesus Is Magic" is exceptionally funny, but I'm not surprised if Repiglicans and Jesoids don't get the joke. After all, these are the same cretins who don't realize that Dumbya Bush is a joke.

The difference is he's not a funny one.

Meta-analysis be darned, and yes -- Rickles is about right (though the personas of Silverman and Rickles are pretty much opposites). Silverman at awards is a lot less funny than Silverman at anything else.

But, er, isn't this true of most good comedians? Award shows are not the best showcase for anybody.

Ah Moe Larry and Jesus,

I remember you as that infantile mouth breather from Huffington Post.

I see your stint there hasn't improved your reasoning skills any. Not that you had any to begin with.

I see you are the same old bigot you always were, though.

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