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A Pro-Choice GOP?

21 Nov 2007 09:19 am

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Hadley Arkes, on the prospect of a Giuliani nomination:

... there is in his campaign a sobering truth that cannot be evaded: The nomination and election of Rudy Giuliani would mark the end of the Republican party as the pro-life party in our politics. And that would be the case regardless of whether pro-lifers respond to his nomination by refusing to vote for Giuliani, forming a third party, or folding themselves into a coalition that succeeds in electing Giuliani.

... What is engaged here is a truth about the nature of political parties that has gone remarkably unappreciated: Parties have the means of changing their own constituencies or their composition. By altering their appeals, they drive some groups out and bring others in. If a Republican party, reconstituted in this way, manages to win, the Republican establishment will readily draw the lesson that they can win convincingly without pro-lifers and their bundle of causes: the destruction of embryos in research, assisted suicide, the resistance to same-sex marriage. Indeed, a Republican party shorn of those people and their baggage may seem to offer a stronger, more durable majority than the party that eked out victories by narrow margins in 2000 and 2004.

Pro-life voters may subordinate their concerns and join the new coalition, but the lesson extracted will be the same … for all practical purposes, nearly any interest will trump the interests of the pro-life community.

Arkes' mordant analysis calls to mind the WSJ article that prompted my back-and-forth with Larison over the GOP and Roe. To highlight the shifting demographics of the two parties, the Journal featured Angela Williams, a Hispanic union member who makes $39,000 a year and votes Republican because she's pro-life, alongside Jim Kelley, a private-equity big shot who leans Democratic in part because he doesn't like the GOP's focus on the social issues. This juxtaposition prompted Matt Continetti to write: "So far the GOP hasn't come up with a reformist agenda to cater to voters like Williams. They may want to do so before Election Day 2008." Which of course is one of my hobby horses - but let's play devil's advocate for a moment, and imagine a Republican that takes regaining the Jack Kelleys of the world as its principle goal, rather than expanding its support among the Angela Williamses. Is such a GOP imaginable? More importantly, would such a GOP, to borrow Arkes’ words, “offer a stronger, more durable majority” than the current Republican incarnation?

The argument in favor might go something like this: The socially-liberal upper-middle class is large and growing larger, and the GOP, because of its business-class associations, is better positioned to make inroads among these nouveau Rockefeller Republicans than among the socially-conservative, downscale Hispanic voters it will otherwise need to build a majority over the next few decades. Moreover, as long as the party remains mildly socially-conservative, most pro-lifers won’t have anywhere else to go: They won’t turn out in the same numbers, sure, and some of them will vote for Democrats – particularly working-class Catholics in states like Ohio – but national security and the promise of conservative judges (which is what the business interests want too, after all) will be sufficient to keep a lot of social conservatives pulling the lever for the GOP. And what losses there are will be more than made up for with gains in the socially-liberal suburbs, which will enable Republicans to hold vulnerable states like Virginia and Florida and become competitive again in the northeast and the West Coast.

It goes without saying, I’m sure, that I don’t find this scenario particularly plausible, not least because most of the northeastern and West Coast suburbanites the GOP has lost aren’t just social liberals – they’ve become liberals, flat-out, as issues like crime and taxes have lost their salience and the Democratic Party has moved to the middle on economics. But I think it’s even less plausible now than it was a few years back – and paradoxically, it’s precisely the developments that have elevated the pro-choice Giuliani to the front-runner’s position that make it more implausible than ever.

In the period between 9/11 and the decline of the U.S. fortunes in Iraq, it was possible to imagine a scenario in which a successfully-prosecuted war on terror became a realigning issue, delivering the GOP a 60 percent majority and branding the Democratic Party as the peace party (and not in a good way) for a generation. All sorts of things might have followed under this scenario, but one possibility is suggested by the Brooks-Kristol notion of a McCain-Lieberman ticket. That pairing little sense now, I think, but in the context of a successful Iraq invasion – followed by cries of “on to Tehran” and “on to Damascus” – it isn’t so outlandish to imagine a GOP that absorbed a lot of Lieberman-style socially-liberal, fiscally-moderate hawks (call it the Dennis Miller vote) and in the process became large enough to make the pro-life vote much less crucial to its fortunes. In the election of 2008, with democracy successfully extended to Iran and Syria, al Qaeda broken and Osama executed, and our rivals in Europe, Russia and China cowed, this McCain-Lieberman GOP might have sat athwart a new political center, with a weakened, much more left-wing Democratic Party to one side and perhaps a disgruntled right-wing rump to the other. The result could have been exactly what Arkes fears: The end, for a time at least, of the pro-life movement as a significant force in American politics.

Instead, the reverse happened: Instead of the war gaining votes for the GOP, it lost them; instead of expanding the party, it shrank it. This state of affairs has given us the bizarre phenomenon of social conservatives embracing Giuliani, following a line of thinking that Arkes sums up thus:

The pro-life movement has become bound up inescapably with the fate of the Republican party ... but the White House cannot be preserved for the Republicans—and the pro-life movement—without solving the problem of the war in Iraq. To this task Giuliani brings no military credentials, but he seems to have the tenacity to see the war through to victory and to bring the Republicans through as a party that need not apologize for a war that was undertaken for good reasons. Even the pro-lifers may recognize then that the war claims a certain precedence or preeminence in the issues now pressing. The pro-life issue may have to be submerged at this moment as a matter of high strategy, for the interests of the country and for the survival of the Republican party as the pro-life party.

I will leave it to my liberal colleagues to point out the “Green Lantern” quality of the bolded passage, and accept this line of reasoning as one of the givens of this primary season. But the reality it’s responding to seems deeply uncongenial to any attempt to expand the GOP in a fashion that would render the pro-life vote irrelevant. Rudy is running with national security as the main rationale for his candidacy, but because the war in Iraq is so unpopular, he cannot use national security to realign the parties so that his own hawkish, socially-liberal politics occupy the political center. Instead, the best he can hope for is a narrow victory over a strong Democratic Party, and to win a narrow victory he will require at least a moderately-impressive turnout from social conservatives. They fear that the GOP can’t win without him, but his campaign – whatever its fantasies about flipping New Jersey and New York to the Republican column – has to know that he can’t win the general election without them. In this election, at least, there is no coalition that could plausibly succeed in electing Rudy that doesn’t depend for its success on millions upon millions of social conservative votes.

This doesn’t mean that pro-lifers should be sanguine about the prospect of a Giuliani nomination, much less that they should support him. (Certainly, the more successful Rudy proved to be in office – and the more successful his foreign policy, in particular – the weaker the pro-life movement’s position in the coalition would become.) But it suggests that Arkes may be slightly too pessimistic about what nominating Rudy would portend for the pro-life movement’s relationship to the GOP.

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Comments (17)

Calling Dumbya's GOP a "pro-life party" is grotesquely hilarious given the fact that it's a party of drooling war criminals and their enablers.

"Fetus fetishists," maybe. But pro-life? Don't be an idiot.

Businesses want conservative justices? Most businesses sided with the University of Michigan over affirmative action, and they also supported local eminent domain laws that would turn private residential property into private commerical property. So I don't think the issue of justices matters as much to business interests as it does for people who really care about wedge issues.

"Fetus fetishists," maybe. But pro-life? Don't be an idiot.

We've killed 35 million unborn Americans since Roe v. Wade. Obviously the party that wants to end this state of affairs has a far stronger claim on the pro-life label than the party that wants to see this continue. A single, botched war doesn't change that.

Giuliani in some ways is a throwback to a Rockefeller type liberal Republican point of view, which has been in most cases in recent years defeated at the heartland and southern polls. My guess is that Giuliani's liberal social views will in time sink him in either the primaries or a general election, especially should he have to face Obama.

More likely Romney will defeat Giuliani in the primaries and be a stronger GOP candidate in the general election. Romney is by far the ablest Republican candidate, though my heart is still with McCain.

I quite agree with Prof. Arkes that the Republican Party, which after all started with Lincoln, will find itself in the politcal wilderness should it chance Giuliani.

Bork snorts: "We've killed 35 million unborn Americans since Roe v. Wade. Obviously the party that wants to end this state of affairs has a far stronger claim on the pro-life label than the party that wants to see this continue. A single, botched war doesn't change that."

There's nothing obvious about it, chuckles. First of all, if they're "unborn," they're not "Americans." The Constitution doesn't bestow citizenship on fetuses. Read it sometime and you'll find that out.

Meanwhile your party leaders made a deliberate choice to kill hundreds of thousands of living, working, breathing, thinking individuals as some sort of twisted, naked power grab - and they all still think it was a nifty idea. (Except for Ron Paul - perhaps the only significant Republican who has any claim on the "pro-life" label at all.) They'll also all stand on their hind legs and bark happily if and when the same thing happens to Iran - even if nukes are used.

So again - "pro-life"? Don't be an idiot.

I agree that nominating Giuliani wouldn't necessarily do in the pro-life movement. But elect him and the movement is dead. That's right, dead.

All Republican attempts to restrict abortion are premised on the idea that pro-lifers are crucial for the coalition. If a pro-choice Republican is elected President, the Republicans will conclude that they no longer need to assert that abortion should be illegal, and that's the end of the road.

Moe, our leaders, including Bush, Hillary Clinton and Kerry, made a decision back in 2001 on reasonable grounds to make war in Iraq. There is such a thing as just war that attempts to restore some sort of tranquilitas ordinis, even in the Middle East. Your equation of this with the abortion license is rather crude, to say nothing of your incessant and deluded moralizing sermons on this blog, however risible.

Actually, something on the order of over a million potential Americans every year have been cruelly snuffed out, your logic chopping absurdity notwithstanding.

I should suggest that you take your slim wares to Daily Kos rather than making such an absurd attempt to influence this serious blogsite on which you are in way over your head.

"35 million lives snuffed out"?

Given that a sizeable percentage of fertilized eggs don't get carried to term due to lack of implantation, early and late miscarriages, me thinks if you want to ride that hobbyhorse you better get mad at Mama Nature first for the even more terrible Holocaust she causes.

What's next, arresting all women who have had miscarriages for accidental manslaughter? Arresting all women over age 35 for having sex because their fertility drops off like a rock and those POOOR little zygotes never make it to full term? Arresting men who smoke because there's a link between smoking and deformed sperm, leading to the zygotes never even being implanted?

Bah.

Re: We've killed 35 million unborn Americans since Roe v. Wade.

No "we" haven't. Certain women and certain doctors have. The rest of us had nothing to do with that. Leave "group guilt" to the Identity Leftists.

Regarding the comment above about judges and business interests - conservative judges are very, very important to business groups. They (in their opinion) were getting eaten alive by trial lawyers and judges willing to expand tort liabilities - they failed in all of their attempts to cure this by legislation, but they have scored great victories in this regard by promoting the election of conservative judges.

To the extent that there is a coherent intellectual movement in law schools that is both pro-life and pro-business, both the social conservative and pro-business wings are well served by the election of someone who will appoint conservative judges. And yes, business groups care about this a lot.

That said, I do not see how a Guliani candidacy makes sense - we see in the quick reaction on this board the strength of people's emotions on abortion, and to suggest that pro-lifers will subsume those feelings to elect a former New York mayor...I do not see it...

Peter Leavitt "replies": "I should suggest that you take your slim wares to Daily Kos rather than making such an absurd attempt to influence this serious blogsite on which you are in way over your head."

I'll reject your suggestion and offer you one of my own, chuckles. Take your pitiful syntax over to Little Green Footballs or Free Republic and frolic with your fellow fascists all the live long day. They'll love you there - they may even make you a squad leader.

Grumpy Realist wrote:

"Given that a sizeable percentage of fertilized eggs don't get carried to term due to lack of implantation, early and late miscarriages, me thinks if you want to ride that hobbyhorse you better get mad at Mama Nature first for the even more terrible Holocaust she causes.

What's next, arresting all women who have had miscarriages for accidental manslaughter? Arresting all women over age 35 for having sex because their fertility drops off like a rock and those POOOR little zygotes never make it to full term? Arresting men who smoke because there's a link between smoking and deformed sperm, leading to the zygotes never even being implanted?"

This version of the naturalistic fallacy needs to be retired. I guess that because tornadoes destroy homes every year in this country, we shouldn't seek to prosecute arsonists. Or because Hurricane Katrina killed over a thousand people in New Orleans, I can go down there this weekend and kill a few more. I would just be mimicking natural events, so no harm no foul, right?

Right.

"I agree that nominating Giuliani wouldn't necessarily do in the pro-life movement. But elect him and the movement is dead. That's right, dead."

Dammit, Dilan, if you keep saying things like that you might convince me to vote for Giuliani in the general election instead of Hillary, Obama, or any other Democrat with a pulse who isn't named Dennis Kucinich, as I currently plan to. In any case, I think I'll stick with Plan A. Go Hillary!

"The Constitution doesn't bestow citizenship on fetuses. Read it sometime and you'll find that out."

Hey ass, the Constitution also doesn't bestow citizenship on illegal immigrants, but last I checked it was still illegal to murder them. What's your point?

This is not a question of citizenship, but of a right to life; it's not a one-to-one mapping.

"Given that a sizeable percentage of fertilized eggs don't get carried to term due to lack of implantation, early and late miscarriages, me thinks if you want to ride that hobbyhorse you better get mad at Mama Nature first for the even more terrible Holocaust she causes."

There's a difference between death and murder. One is an accident, the other requires a malign intent. That's why the law maintains a distinction between things like murder, manslaughter and self-defense.

Tameyoyo writes: "Hey ass, the Constitution also doesn't bestow citizenship on illegal immigrants, but last I checked it was still illegal to murder them. What's your point?"

My point was that calling them "unborn Americans" is simply stupid. I would think that even a half-bright 8 year old could have followed the discussion well enough to grasp that.

"There's a difference between death and murder. One is an accident, the other requires a malign intent. That's why the law maintains a distinction between things like murder, manslaughter and self-defense."

No kidding, Perry Mason. Therefore abortion isn't murder if one doesn't consider the fetus to be a person. In fact, it isn't an offense of any kind if that's the starting assumption.

If lifers consider fetuses to be human we'll have to start counting them for census and tax deduction purposes, and we'll have to investigate miscarriages as potential homicides. Those things really do follow logically from a base assumption that the little critters are as human as uh, reali live "bois."

"There's nothing obvious about it, chuckles. First of all, if they're "unborn," they're not "Americans." The Constitution doesn't bestow citizenship on fetuses. Read it sometime and you'll find that out."

Followed later by:

"Therefore abortion isn't murder if one doesn't consider the fetus to be a person. In fact, it isn't an offense of any kind if that's the starting assumption."

Genius. Your initial post equated right to life with citizenship. Your later post finally realized that right to life is equated with personhood, not citizenship. It is possible to be in the latter category without being in the former category, such as illegal immigrants. Glad you finally realize this.

It does not follow from the fact that you are a person that you must be counted for tax deduction purposes. Refer to the above example about illegal immigrants. More to the point, I'm not sure how this is responsive to equating natural death with murder as grumpy realist did.

The "boi" replies: "Genius. Your initial post equated right to life with citizenship. Your later post finally realized that right to life is equated with personhood, not citizenship. It is possible to be in the latter category without being in the former category, such as illegal immigrants. Glad you finally realize this."

My "initial post" was addressing another poster's absurd use of the phrase "unborn Americans," meathead. Try to follow the discussion. I wasn't equating anything with anything. The phrase "unborn Americans" is worthy of nothing but contempt - it's pure jingoistic garbage that shows just how intellectually decrepit the wingnut lifer movement is.

All of my other points hold. If lifers want to give fetuses the status of human beings under our Constitution, I'd like to see some of them begin to address the possible consequences of that decision.