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26 Nov 2007 04:43 pm

Those African-American social mobility numbers I mentioned earlier are depressing enough to deserve to be unpacked a little:

Forty-five percent of black children whose parents were solidly middle class in 1968 -- a stratum with a median income of $55,600 in inflation-adjusted dollars -- grew up to be among the lowest fifth of the nation's earners, with a median family income of $23,100. Only 16 percent of whites experienced similar downward mobility. At the same time, 48 percent of black children whose parents were in an economic bracket with a median family income of $41,700 sank into the lowest income group.

If you're looking for a reason to be pessimistic about the future of the American social fabric - and particularly the fabric of working-class life - in the face of a decade's worth of good news, it's right here. Why are African-Americans more likely to be downwardly-mobile than non-blacks? Probably because of two inter-related factors: The weak cultural capital afforded by the black community's disastrous family structure, which in turn reinforces the black-white wealth gap that's a legacy of slavery and segregation. Now consider that the first factor, the decline of marriage and the rise of illegitimacy, is increasingly visible in white and (especially) Hispanic America as well. This raises the possibility that what's true of African Americans today - that they have a hard time making it to prosperity and a harder time staying there - may be true of the rest of working-class America further down the road. The United States as a whole has a higher same out-of-wedlock birth rate at present - around 37 percent as of 2005 - that black America had in the 1960s, when Daniel Patrick Moynihan first sounded the alarm about family dissolution in the African-American community. If that number inches higher, or even if it stays constant, it's going to be harder and harder for working-class Americans to compete in the global economy, and harder, as a result, for them avoid stagnation and downward mobility at home.

As I said, this is a pessimist's forecast, and the pessimists' forecasts of the early 1990s were proven wrong in spite of the steadily rising white and Latino illegitimacy that has characterized the fifteen years since. But the problem is still there, and still real, even though crime and drug abuse and many other negative social indicators have gone into eclipse of late. The U.S. isn't likely to suddenly morph into Scandinavia, which has managed to maintain impressive family stability - and the social stability and economic competitiveness that comes with it - without high marriage rates. Nor are we likely - though never say never, where the U.S. economy is concerned - to enjoy another period of expansion like the Nineties boom. Enormous wealth-generation can (and seemingly did, in the last decade) cover over a variety of social ills, but it's easy to imagine the reverse happening over the next few decades, with the decline of the American family making any era of diminished expectations self-reinforcing, so that the country, as well as its working class, becomes downwardly-mobile over time. This isn't a future we should expect, by any means - but it's a possibility we should be aware of, and one that we should strive to avoid.

I should note, as well, that Reihan's post today on a politics of "infinite demands" dovetails with this pessimistic vision in interesting and not-so-obvious ways.

Comments (36)

The Economist discussed the same topic last week, see http://www.economist.com/world/na/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10177040

It would seem that black women now earn almost as much as white women, but they are much more likely to be sole breadwinners. The article also points out that poor blacks tend to be less wealthy than their white counterparts even when they earn (almost) as much. The end result is blacks are more likely to be adversely affected by temporary setbacks such as unemployment or illness.

My impression is that it takes money to succeed in the U.S. nowadays, since e.g. university fees are astronomically high (by Finnish standards anyway).

MARCU$

Ross,

If you think that the ideas that America could go the way of Sweden, or that rapid economic growth could make the problems irelevant, are unrealistic (I agree with you on the last one), then it would make sense for you to also concede that what is probably your solution- returning to the 1950s model of no intercourse before marriage- is even more unrealistic. There are many directions in which America might go, I don't see that as one of them. Nor are we going to get rid of birth control.

Forty-five percent of black children whose parents were solidly middle class in 1968.

About a quarter of the workforce in 1968 were salaried employees and perhaps one in 12 were proprietors. Somewhat under a tenth were likely outside the working population for some reason other than respectable retirement. All of which is to say that about 30% of the population might have lived in households which were 'solidly middle class'. The majority belonged to the wage-earning working class and still do, and the black population has been no exception.

Regression to the mean
Immigration

As far as I can tell, though, the 1950s didn't feature "no intercourse before marriage" in general. And the illegitimacy rates are not so high among whites -- is this because white folks don't have sex much? I'd like to see some return of shame and sexual morality in general, and think it would have positive consequences for these points, but some folks without anything I'd laud as great sexual morality seem to go about it in less society-damaging ways.

Re: then it would make sense for you to also concede that what is probably your solution- returning to the 1950s model of no intercourse before marriage- is even more unrealistic.

We would not need a "no intercourse" rule there. Birth control works you know. But in altogether too many cases of single motherhood, the mother did plan and want to have her children exactky as she did.

Re: I'd like to see some return of shame and sexual morality in general, and think it would have positive consequences for these points, but some folks without anything I'd laud as great sexual morality seem to go about it in less society-damaging ways.

Attaching shame to childbearing or anything related thereto is exactly the wrong thing to do if you want fewer abortions.

Attaching shame to childbearing or anything related thereto is exactly the wrong thing to do if you want fewer abortions.

Jonf -- yes and no. The hard-core antipathy to illegitimate children (and their mothers) of some past times had a certain essential uncharitableness to it, but the complete lack of stigma now is a contributing factor in making behavior that does not bode well for human lives more popular. It's hard to have a sexual morality without attaching some shame to "anything related thereto", really, isn't it?

Blacks are an underclass beyond saving, but one that will become less important over time as their numbers are swamped by Hispanics.

First off, this is a thoughtful post.

I think that the Marquis' 7:45 post is dead on.

Ross is correct about the problem of the decline of intact families, but I'd argue that it's just one aspect of the problem. To put a name on it, I'd call it "ingrained helplessness"-- the idea that life is so tilted against you that it's pointless to dream of, or try for, a different life. That's a bit of a caricature, but I don't think it's wildly off the mark. Environment shapes expectations for just about everyone.

The thing is, it is far from obvious to me how government should respond in policy terms. Use of the bully pulpit is one way, but beyond that, what? (Funding the faith-based approach?) The old model of the civil rights fight-- mass protests demanding equal treatment for the government-- is ingrained, but it's not obvious to me that it's the most effective way to change bad things today.

Re: The comment at 8:06 -

I had no idea George Allen was posting here.

Could it be increasing numbers of African American prisoners and ex-prisoners? turkey's right about regression to the mean (I don't see how that could be large enough to explain this, though) but I can't see how immigration would effect blacks more than whites (same with closing down of factories).

The "ingrained hopelessness" Elvis refers to is important to keep in mind. So is the "last hired, first fired" meme of the Civil Rights era.

If you look at the last 25 years or so as a determined effort by the right wingers to roll back the clock and effect a huge wealth transfer to the wealthy, you might also see how shrinking the middle class - and squeezing them financially with rising health, education, housing and energy costs - would lead to a lack of mobility and resiliency among people who weren't solidly a part of it in the first place. Art Deco's odd dismissal of the idea that the "working class" could be considered "middle class" sounds peculiar because "working class" had come to be considered "middle class" in this country. Perhaps that's no longer true.

If you look at the last 25 years or so as a determined effort by the right wingers to roll back the clock and effect a huge wealth transfer to the wealthy

Why would I want to do that?

More generally, why do you think that demonizing your opponents will make your arguments more convincing?

Well, Moe, no doubt the US ruling class has indeed been trying to roll back the clock and transfer wealth to the wealthy. This is the nature of an oligarchic government in the monopolistic stage of capitalism. (I would note that that oligarchic ruling class isn't defined by one party, it has its Dumbocrat representatives as much as its Repiglican ones.

But not every rank-and-file conservative wants to bring back the days of the American oligarchy. I doubt that Ross, for example, is motivated primarily by a love for laissez-faire capitalism and for keeping the poor in their place. Furthermore, there are some types of social problems that even a change in economic structure won't solve. The socialist governments in Eastern Europe were unable to do much about the problems of the Gypsies, for example.

My current lower-middle-class gig ($30k/year if you do ample overtime) features a workforce that's about 50 percent black. To be completely anecdotal - my black coworkers are much, much more likely than their non-black counterparts to have a newish luxury car on that salary but also live paycheck to paycheck, frequently use the short-term payday loans and treat paydays like holidays.

The socialist governments in Eastern Europe were unable to do much about the problems of the Gypsies, for example.

Well, to be fair, as far as I can tell, it's hard to say what problems the socialist governments in Eastern Europe did "do much" (other than make worse or merely shuffle around) about. No? Hector's goals seem to be often in line with mine, but he seems to have a sneaking admiration for systems that appear to have been even more embedded power systems where some people crush others than capitalism at its present level in the West. I don't get it. A human system might look different than capitalism, but it doesn't look like the socialist world we've seen. Chesterton saw that.

A humane system, that is.

As an African American male, of all the responses I've heard, I think that the most plausible explanation for the conditions spoken of in the article are the growing effects of consumerism in the American populace.
As a general rule Americans just 30 years ago were less likely to spend so liberally on non-essentials. Look out on the highway, and you can see the type of investments people of all income brackets have on luxury transportation.
In the early 90s when I was in high school, a lot could be said for the driver of a new mercedes or BMW's income. Today, having an astronomically priced vehicle is no more a sign of wealth than wearing designer clothing was back then. Americans tend to spend a tremendous amount of money on items and services that have no lasting returns when considering wealth creation. As African Americans generally earn less money than their European American counterparts, the effect of concentrating so little of their income on the essentials results in a limited ability to create the type of wealth to improve or even match their parent's station in life. This, I fear, also explains much about the mortgage crisis and weakened economic situation in the US.

I feel, little will be done to change this situation, at least from an external standpoint, since so much of the exponential growth seen in the 20th century was due, in part, to the shift of American's mindset of equating luxuries with necessities. Or worse, even procuring luxuries at the expense of a basic ability to secure necessities.

working class: You nailed it brother.

America is a consumer culture, and by generational standards, African-Americans are the "new rich", who unlike their "old money" counterparts are more likely to purchase flashy accessories that communicate status and money. Also, as a single black man looking for Ms. Right, I HAVE to purchase accesories above my income level in order to even land a date with the few elgible (no kids, bachelor's degree) black women in my area. I guess when you've been poor for 15 generations, your culture will overcompensate a bit.

Marquis,

My views on economic morality are far enough out of the American mainstream that I'm not going to take up your time trying to convince you of anything.

I don't think it's fair to say, though, that the socialist states of Eastern Europe accomplished 'nothing'. If that were true, then political morality would be a much simpler affair. They accomplished quite a lot, actually; look at the literacy, life expectancy, infant mortality, nutritional levels or other indicators in eastern Europe circa 1990. The problem is, of course, that they did it at an unacceptable cost, in terms of repressing people's spiritual convictions, national identity and desires for at least a certain degree of freedom.

I also don't think it makes sense for conservatives to lump together a country like Yugoslavia (which had a market-oriented socialist economy, run by workers themselves, and a reasonably liberal political environment- by most accounts not such a bad place to live) with, say, East Germany or Poland (if for no other reason than that socialism was brought to Yugoslavia by Yugoslavs, and to Poland by the hated Red Army). Any more than it makes sense for people on the other extreme to lump together Hitler, Metaxas, and Peron by calling them all fascists.

In any case, my point was anticipating anyone who might argue that the plight of African American inner cities is due to the fact that the capitalist system is inherently unjust and immoral. I would say, yes that's true, but that isn't the whole truth. There are cultural problems in the inner city today (and in the rest of America too), that are separate from the economic injustice problems. Eastern European communist efforts to suppress crime, give everyone a job, extend free health care and education to everyone, and in general create the new hard-working, virtuous and selfless citizen, was not able to solve the problem that certain elements of the Gypsy culture were not really interested in any of these things.

Just to add,

Not that I would say that, other than maybe Yugoslavia, those things constituted the essence of any of the East European governments. They were brought to power by Stalinist influence, and as with Stalinist Russia they seemed to have a penchant for attracting nasty people who were out for nothing but power. See Gabor Peter, the hunchbacked torturer of Budapest. But they also included their fair share of idealists, these were the ideals they claimed to be striving for, and as far as I know they didn't make much headway with the Gypsies.

They accomplished quite a lot, actually; look at the literacy, life expectancy, infant mortality, nutritional levels or other indicators in eastern Europe circa 1990. The problem is, of course, that they did it at an unacceptable cost, in terms of repressing people's spiritual convictions, national identity and desires for at least a certain degree of freedom.


The problem with crediting the command economies with these achievements is the latent assumption that hypothetical post war ministries run by the agrarian parties which were the most popular in the inter-war period would have done less or nothing. Is that warrented?

Here is a link to some social statistics on Honduras, hardly an exemplar of rapid economic development:

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ho.html#People

You will remark that the life expectancy at birth is now around seventy years (similar to the United States ca. 1950) and about four-fifths of the population is minimally literate. I am working from memory here, but if I recall correctly, literacy rates in Honduras fifty years ago were on the order of 30%.

Consider also that Czechoslovakia encompassed one of the earlier regions of Europe to industrialize and (by some accounts) lagged behind only about a half-dozen countries in the world in its aggregate standard of living (ca. 1938). Cuba lagged behind only about a half-dozen of the 22 sovereign countries of the Western Hemisphere in 1958. Neither was the case by 1990.

I also don't think it makes sense for conservatives to lump together a country like Yugoslavia (which had a market-oriented socialist economy, run by workers themselves, and a reasonably liberal political environment- by most accounts not such a bad place to live) with, say, East Germany or Poland (if for no other reason than that socialism was brought to Yugoslavia by Yugoslavs, and to Poland by the hated Red Army). Any more than it makes sense for people on the other extreme to lump together Hitler, Metaxas, and Peron by calling them all fascists.

There is a good deal of truth to that. However, I would refer you to the contemporary reports of Freedom House which, ca. 1977, assigned an index of political liberty and participation to Poland, Hungary, and Yugoslavia that was a considerable advance over Soviet Russia's but really no better than the norm among the authoritarian states of Latin America.

Was not another effect on the whole situation the increasing loss of employment opportunities for the working class? Supposedly it ripped out a lot of the work ethic/infrastructure which was then replaced by the "depend on welfare" mindset.

Re: The hard-core antipathy to illegitimate children (and their mothers) of some past times had a certain essential uncharitableness to it

IMO, this is a classic case of the cure being worse than the disease, at least in a society that has the technology for safe relatively painless abortion. Like it or not, time only goes one direction and we must seek our solutions in the future, not in a past to which we can never return (and should not wish to, if the cost is the abandonment of modern medicine)

Jonf wrote:

"IMO, this is a classic case of the cure being worse than the disease, at least in a society that has the technology for safe relatively painless abortion. Like it or not, time only goes one direction and we must seek our solutions in the future, not in a past to which we can never return (and should not wish to, if the cost is the abandonment of modern medicine)"

I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at here, but I think you are suggesting that we need to keep the current abortion laws on the books to tackle the problems of illegitimacy. The problem is that the evidence points in the other direction. Liberal abortion policies coincided with an increase in illegitimacy rates throughout the 1970's. Both the abortion rate and the illegitimacy rate fell during the 1990's as well, which suggests that there is a link between the two. It's also instructive to note that the population that has the most abortions--poor women of color--also suffers from the largest rates of illegitimacy.

I also don't hear or read anyone who wants to restrict abortion calling for the abandonment of modern medicine. Do you? Furthermore, the argument that because we have the capability of making abortion relatively painless for women (although it can be rather painful for the fetus being killed if the abortion is performed later in the term) and therefore the issue at hand is settled seems pretty weak to me. Modern medicine can give us the tools to make capital punishment relatively easy and painless, but that hardly settles the matter as to whether we should let the state execute convicted murderers.

But if I am misreading you, then let me know.

torourke -- no, I think Jonf is saying that because of abortion being readily available, we can't have recourse to much stigma for illegitimacy, because women will just abort. I'm pretty sure Jonf's pro-life. I think it's an argument with some force, though I don't quite agree with it.

Re: I'm not exactly sure what you are getting at here, but I think you are suggesting that we need to keep the current abortion laws on the books to tackle the problems of illegitimacy.

Not my point at all. What I was saying is that we cannot return to a social regieme which shames illegitimate children since that would increase the abortion rate (and laws are irrelevant there).

Re: Both the abortion rate and the illegitimacy rate fell during the 1990's as well, which suggests that there is a link between the two.

As the population ages we are going to see fewer abortions and fewer illegitimate children. The reason should be obvious.

Jonf,

My mistake in misreading your post, although I'm still unsure of how trying to stigmatize illegitimacy necessarily entails abandoning modern medicine. But maybe I'm missing the point on that too. How would this follow?

I think we should try to stigmatize illegitimacy, but it would make sense to point the finger at the actual culprits--the fathers who abandon both mother and child.

I'd run across the statistics of downward mobility in the Black middle class cohort of '68 that Ross mentioned and mentioned it to a black co-worker. Her instant response: "Crack. That is the first crack generation."

Apparently there is this narrative: The Black family and church were held in place by generations of women. This core group kept the Black community functioning thru slavery and jim crow and migrations only to succumb to the crack epidemic of the 80s and 90s. Succeeding generations are paying the price.

JonF,

Actually, I would not be surprised if middle aged women have increasing numbers of abortions in the future, as the circumstances of modern society push women to try having children later and later.

I was talking recently with a woman who had two children in her early 40s. She said that she had had them both tested prenatally for Down's syndrome and that she would have 'terminated' them if they had. (The odd thing is that this woman is a doctor whose profession is trying to save the lives of premature babies. I don't know how she is able to square that with being pro-choice). I suspect that that kind of thing is becoming more common as more women try to have kids later.

Re: My mistake in misreading your post, although I'm still unsure of how trying to stigmatize illegitimacy necessarily entails abandoning modern medicine.

It's a counter-factual, maybe even a reductio ad absurdum. We aren't going to abandon modern medicine-- which is what we'd have to do to start shaming illegitimacy without boosting the abortion rate. You see, it wasn't laws that kept abortion rare in the pre-modern past, it was sheer danger of the procedure, so great that in some times and places no one even bothered to pass laws against it precisely because it was quite often its own death sentence for the woman.

Now if I can change the subject, the problem here is not the children. And it's not even their mothers, who should not be treated as if they were some bizarre alien lifeforms with incomprehensible desires and mentalities. People who have actually bothered to befriend these women and learn their motivations report that they are perfectly normal: they have children because they want children. Surely that is not an alien or immoral desire, when most of humanity shares it? Even though I personally have no such desire, I still regard it as being as normal as the sunshine. No, the problem is not women having children, the problem is the lack of husbands. But why do these women not marry then? There too the answer is simple: there's a severe shortage of marriageable men. So, since they want children but have no men worth marrying, the women have the children anyway. Again, rather logical even if the larger consequences are problematic. And finally, why are there so few marriage-worthy men in these subcultures. Are you sure you want to answer that question? You might not like that answer because it might require something more of you than comfortable finger-wagging and tongue-clucking. If you really, truly wanted to solve this problem you'd have to give up things: some economic freedom and and opportunity and prosperity maybe so others could have a bigger share. But of course we won't do that, will we? So if that's our choice then at least let's not be hypocrites about the results. We prefer those results to the alternative so let's stop whining about it.

JonF, I'm with you part of the way there. Yes, it's a natural desire, and so forth, and not an insane choice, or sign of total moral depravity, or what-you-will. The idea that by giving up opportunity, economic freedom, and prosperity we could "fix" the lack of marriageable men in, say, the black urban underclass strikes me as -- well, fantastical. How will that work? Raise taxes and create job programs? The poverty itself doesn't seem to be the root cause, though the lack of real jobs may be, but I don't think there's some magic government program or economic redistribution that can fix that now, do you?

I mean, what is this bargain you're proposing? How does it work?

JonF,

Okay I see what you are getting at in the first point, but I still think you're mistaken. In the years leading up to Roe, most women who sought illegal abortions got them from doctors who used antibiotics and such, and consequently the mortality rate for women who got abortions was quite low by 1972. The CDC calcualated that 39 women died from illegal abortions in 1972 while at least 20 died from legal ones that same year. Even if I were to accept your point that shaming illegitimacy would increase abortion--which I don't--the evidence that we would need to get rid of antibiotics to scare women into not having abortions is just not there.

Futhermore, as I mentioned above, men are clearly the ones at fault with respect to the illegitimacy rate in the black underclass. So I'm not sure how shaming them/encouraging them to be more responsible with their family commitments would add extra pressure on women to abort. I would like to think the opposite would happen, although I realize that what I am contemplating would be difficult-to-impossible to do on a large scale.

As for your second point, I'm with you on the diagnosis, but I think your cure would only make things worse, so I think any charge of hypocrisy would not have much merit unless I agreed with your cure but ignored the issue of economic justice while continuing to rail against abortion.

You wrote:

"And finally, why are there so few marriage-worthy men in these subcultures. Are you sure you want to answer that question? You might not like that answer because it might require something more of you than comfortable finger-wagging and tongue-clucking. If you really, truly wanted to solve this problem you'd have to give up things: some economic freedom and and opportunity and prosperity maybe so others could have a bigger share. But of course we won't do that, will we? So if that's our choice then at least let's not be hypocrites about the results. We prefer those results to the alternative so let's stop whining about it."

The problem with this analysis is that there were more marriage-worthy men back in the 1950's and 1960's--when the illegitimacy rates of black Americans were in the 20-30% range, and there was also much more racism and much less economic opportunity for blacks. Since then, there was the Great Society, which was probably a start towards what you are envisioning, and affirmative action to address past discrimination (at least in theory). And yet the problems in the black underclass are more intractable than ever. Illegitimacy has skyrocketed, violent crime among blacks has exploded, and I am more tempted than ever to think that the situation is simply hopeless.

If we were to give up economic freedom to the extent that you are suggesting, I think the problems would actually get worse. Look at France: a generous welfare state, universal health care, very high minimum wages, job security laws that make it virtually impossible to fire people...and an underclass that has begun rioting again within the last few days. Dozens of cops have been injured by rioters throwing rocks and firing pellet guns. All of the above elements make it virutally impossible to start a business and create jobs, which is a primary reason why the unemployment rate for French young people is over 20% (nearly double what ours is).

If we were still living under Jim Crow, then there would be a obvious excuse for why the black underclass was having so many problems. But Jim Crow is now decades in the past, this country has been discriminating in favor of black Americans at the public and private level through affirmative action for years, and yet the situation for too much of black America is getting worse.

Too many people on the left seem willing to absolve the black underclass from any responsibility for their current plight, which is only making it more difficult to solve the problem. If we could get men in the black underclass to start approaching marriage and fatherhood in the same way that Asian-American men do (who themselves faced poverty and discrimination in this country) then I think the poverty and violence would gradually disappear. The problem is, I have no idea how to do this, and I don't know if anyone else does either.

Marquis,

It's not the poverty alone. I would suspect it's more the fact that living in a wealthy society that promotes materialistic values, and has such drastic contrasts of wealth and poverty, promotes a sense of alienation among segments of the black underclass. Crime rates around the world seem to track inequality (not poverty per se) fairly well, look at Brazil or South Africa. I would suspect that a great many people in the inner city have no desire to be a part of a society that condemns them to poverty and lavishes such wealth on other people. When you couple this with the availability of drugs and weapons, the decline of the church and of the idea of morality in general, and the fact that America is largely a materialistic society which has had a strong strain of thinking 'whatever you have to do to get ahead is ok', i would suggest this is what inspires a lot of people to turn to crime. American culture has always made folk heroes out of some nasty people, whether they be the Al Capones or the robber barons. inner city African American subcultures are just the newest variation.

Regarding economic justice, I don't expect America is going to be a socialist country anytime soon, and their are limits to how much we could do. I think that the state needs to take the lead role in providing jobs, relocating industries in American cities, keeping factories from relocating abroad with tariffs, financial penalties and other things, and generally making sure that every young man and woman in the inner city is either employed, in school, or caring for a newborn child. We also need to do something about the abysmal state of inner city schools.

Hector,

Perhaps. I just don't think we can actually pull any of that off, and the results of trying on a lot of it will be to make things worse.

But ingrained "local" pessimism is precisely why I am a conservative. Always bet on the house, locally. Globally, God's in His heaven, and the foundations of Being are doing a-ok, as expected.

Ok, I don't think we can pull _much_ of that off. Some, maybe. The schools could probably be improved, though I doubt anything inheriting from our current public school system could do it.


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