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The Case of Antony Flew

05 Nov 2007 10:03 am

Yuck. I picked up There Is No A God, by (or perhaps I should say "by") the ex-atheist philosopher Antony Flew about a week ago and found it, well, odd. The book opens with a forward by one Roy Abraham Varghese, whose name appears underneath Flew’s on the jacket but whose specific role is left distinctly ambiguous (there is no “about the author” for Varghese). The meat of the book, which mixes memoir and argument and is ostensibly written by Flew, is followed by two lengthy appendices; in one, Varghese critiques the Dawkins-Harris-Dennett contingent; in the second, the historian and theologian N.T. Wright responds to questions from (“from”?) Flew along the lines of “what evidence is there for the existence of God?” The whole thing is a somewhat peculiar pastiche, and it left me curious about its origins.

Now Mark Oppenheimer has a fascinating and depressing piece about how Flew's theistic friends, led by Varghese, seem to have taken advantage of his advancing senility to write a book about his adoption of deism, run it by him for approval, and slap his name on the cover.

Here's Oppenheimer:

As Flew himself conceded, he had not written his book.

“This is really Roy’s doing,” he said, before I had even figured out a polite way to ask. “He showed it to me, and I said O.K. I’m too old for this kind of work!”

When I asked Varghese, he freely admitted that the book was his idea and that he had done all the original writing for it. But he made the book sound like more of a joint effort — slightly more, anyway. “There was stuff he had written before, and some of that was adapted to this,” Varghese said. “There is stuff he’d written to me in correspondence, and I organized a lot of it. And I had interviews with him. So those three elements went into it. Oh, and I exposed him to certain authors and got his views on them. We pulled it together. And then to make it more reader-friendly, HarperCollins had a more popular author go through it.”

So even the ghostwriter had a ghostwriter: Bob Hostetler, an evangelical pastor and author from Ohio, rewrote many passages, especially in the section that narrates Flew’s childhood. With three authors, how much Flew was left in the book? “He went through everything, was happy with everything,” Varghese said.

Cynthia DiTiberio, the editor who acquired “There Is a God” for HarperOne, told me that Hostetler’s work was limited; she called him “an extensive copy editor.” “He did the kind of thing I would have done if I had the time,” DiTiberio said, “but editors don’t get any editing done in the office; we have to do that in our own time.”

I then asked DiTiberio if it was ethical to publish a book under Flew’s name that cites sources Flew doesn’t know well enough to discuss. “I see your struggle and confusion,” she said, but she maintained that the book is an accurate presentation of Flew’s views. “I don’t think Tony would have allowed us to put in anything he was not comfortable with or familiar with,” she said. “I mean, it is hard to tell at this point how much is him getting older. In my communications with him, there are times you have to say things a couple times. I’m not sure what that is. I wish I could tell you more. . . We were hindered by the fact that he is older, but it would do the world a disservice not to have the book out there, regardless of how it was made.”

Now of course plenty of people have ghostwriters, but most of them aren’t philosophers attempting rigorous arguments about the nature of the universe – and most of them aren’t suffering from memory loss:

In “There Is a God,” Flew quotes extensively from a conversation he had with Leftow, a professor at Oxford. So I asked Flew, “Do you know Brian Leftow?”

“No,” he said. “I don’t think I do.”

“Do you know the work of the philosopher John Leslie?” Leslie is discussed extensively in the book.

Flew paused, seeming unsure. “I think he’s quite good.” But he said he did not remember the specifics of Leslie’s work.

“Have you ever run across the philosopher Paul Davies?” In his book, Flew calls Paul Davies “arguably the most influential contemporary expositor of modern science.”

“I’m afraid this is a spectacle of my not remembering!”

He said this with a laugh. When we began the interview, he warned me, with merry self-deprecation, that he suffers from “nominal aphasia,” or the inability to reproduce names. But he forgot more than names. He didn’t remember talking with Paul Kurtz about his introduction to “God and Philosophy” just two years ago. There were words in his book, like “abiogenesis,” that now he could not define. When I asked about Gary Habermas, who told me that he and Flew had been friends for 22 years and exchanged “dozens” of letters, Flew said, “He and I met at a debate, I think.” I pointed out to him that in his earlier philosophical work he argued that the mere concept of God was incoherent, so if he was now a theist, he must reject huge chunks of his old philosophy. “Yes, maybe there’s a major inconsistency there,” he said, seeming grateful for my insight. And he seemed generally uninterested in the content of his book — he spent far more time talking about the dangers of unchecked Muslim immigration and his embrace of the anti-E.U. United Kingdom Independence Party.

Had Flew merely shifted from atheism to deism and given a few interviews about it, this sort of questioning would seem somewhat unfair - badgering an old man who's just trying to follow his intellectual curiosity where it leads him, even though his synapses don't fire quite the way they used to. But Flew has lent his name to a book that aspires to be taken seriously as an argument for the existence of some sort of God, and if he can't manage an interview, then the book shouldn't have been written in the first place. It's possible, of course, that there's more to this than Oppenheimer has uncovered, though if anything he seems to go out of his way to be fair to Varghese and Co. (“If Flew in his dotage was a bit gullible, Varghese had a gullibility of his own. An autodidact with no academic credentials, Varghese was clearly thrilled to be taken seriously by an Oxford-trained philosopher; it may never have occurred to him that so educated a mind could be in decline.”) But on the basis of his reporting, There Is A God is a disgrace, the publisher ought to be ashamed of itself (ha!), and N.T. Wright, whose reputation is deservedly sterling, ought to disassociate himself from the project. Anthony Flew’s turn to deism seems genuine, but he’s in no position to have his name and reputation associated with a book about so important a topic, and the people responsible for taking advantage of his friendship have brought only scandal to the name of the beliefs they hold so dear.

Comments (26)

You may also be interested in the interview that Gary Habermas did with Antony Flew from Philosophia Christi. Habermas is a friend of Flew's and has been influential in his "conversion." Philosophia Christi is a peer-review publication in philosophy of religion. Its the journal of the Evangelical Philosophical Society (www.epsociety.org).

See here for the interview: http://epsociety.org/library/articles.asp?pid=33

And here for Habermas' review essay of There is a God: http://epsociety.org/library/default.asp

Best regards,

Joseff Farrah

"Anthony Flew’s turn to deism seems genuine,"

I cannot attest to the veracity of what’s written in There is a God: However, as an attorney familiar with the standard of "undue influence" its important for all of us not to miss the greater point that our intellectual will (built on wisdom, experience, and study) not be besmirched simply because we are older.

Flew says he has a lifelong commitment to going "where the evidence leads." And now, he maintains, the evidence leads to theism. His describes his own past writings as a "relic." Flew writes, "My discovery of the divine has proceeded on a purely natural level, without any reference to supernatural phenomena...It has had no connection with any of the revealed religions. Nor do I claim to have had any personal experience of God or any experience that may be called supernatural or miraculous. My discovery of the divine has been a pilgrimage of reason and not of faith."
Flews intellectual journey toward belief is documented, feely acceded to and genuine. This is a coup of the greatest kind for theism given the prestige Flew held as a former atheist. Just as a disinherited family member often contests a relatives “will” out of spite. It is entirely plausible that this article hopes to paint Flew’s conversion as the meandering of a dithering old man – rather than concede the genuine power of the renunciation of contemporary philosophies most strident atheists.

Hmm. I read a Stanley Fish piece on this book in the NY Times, but it gave no indication of the unusual circumstances surrounding its creation.

Would it have been disrespectful to title this post "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"?

... writings as a "relic." Flew writes, "My discovery of the divine ...

I can't find this quotation on Google anywhere except in second-hand accounts of a Dinesh D'Souza column. Where has he written it?

jenny

Fitz said: "Flews intellectual journey toward belief is documented, feely acceded to and genuine. This is a coup of the greatest kind for theism given the prestige Flew held as a former atheist."

Let's unpack this, shall we? First, the degraded state of Flew's memory, his acceptance of the pseudo-sceince Varghese and company fed him, and his various shiftings on the issue-see the correspondance with Carrier, the atheist philosophy student, described in the article--make it hard to claim that his turn to deism, while possibly genuine, is based on any kind of rigourous intellectual process. An old man with fading capabilities was misled by hucksters and signed off on a book he never wrote and does not even seem familiar with.

Varghese misled an old man and used him to commit fraud. This is a great coup for theism?

Look, I'm a Christian, but I don't need lies and publicity stunts to shore up my faith. If Varghese's arguments for God's existence are so compelling (and it certainly doesn't sound like they are here), it shouldn't matter whether Few's name is on them or not. This book is a digrace.

And one more thing, how does an atheist embracing an impersonal, distant, mechanistic, orginating intelligence constitute a validation of Christianity? If this is the best conversion Varghese and co. can manage they've really got nothing.

Let's all remember who Mark Oppenheimer is.

This is the man who called Hitchens' "The Missionary Position" a "brave" portrayal of the dirty truth of the Catholic church.

The man hates Christianity. He is no impartial observer.

Just for the record.

Tim, frankly, that's irrelevant. Show me some evidence that he's committed falsehood, as Varghese (who he bends over backwards to be fair to) has, and then we can talk.

And besides, what does the very mild sort of deism Few has fitfully pronounced have to do with Christianity?

Justin,

It may not be directly pertinent. Hence, "just for the record."

The man hates Christianity. It comes through most of what he writes. Not as much this time. Just for the record.

I will just say this: as a graduate student in philosophy, it's quite shocking to me that Flew would sign off as author of a book he did not write (this is probably common to academics of all stripes). Right now, I cannot think of a single major figure in the field who has done such a thing-it seems almost dishonest.

That by itself, with or without the more serious charges of manipulation, would suffice to make me doubt that this book was worth anyone's attention.

With the benefit of a minute's hindsight(!), I don't wish to accuse Flew of dishonesty. I suppose I should say "contemplating doing it myself, the thought feels dishonest" (as if anyone would care about my name on a book).

Even if this Mark guy's biased there has been people misrepresenting Flew's views and some of what they list sounds genuine. If they are misrepresenting him in bookform, which sounds likely, it's wrong.

And to be honest advanced age often does cause memory loss.

It sounds like Flew's conversion to some sort of generic Deism is real, especially since it was a conversion made when before his powers flagged. It should be respected as a genuine change of outlook.

It also sounds like this book should not be regarded as his personal testimony on the issue.

So, theist, yes. Writer of theistic tracts, no.

Tim, I again and again see people try to claim that Missionary Position is wrong, evil, a sign of Christian-hating, etc... but then never any coherent counter-argument against what it says. That sort of attitude is, in fact, pretty much a validation of Hitchen's thesis (and to be honest, I'm no great fan of Hitchen's) that Theresa is treated as a sacred PR image of pure goodness rather than ever examined in full or any questions asked.

I've followed Flew's various writings over the years about his change, and there is simply no way at all to describe it as anything other than incredibly confusing.

It's also never been clear to me what Flew's changing of his mind is supposed to imply to anyone. If he has good reasons, argued well, that would certainly be interesting. Unfortunately, the reasons given are not particularly new or interesting, and their presentation not even really being from Flew in the first place makes them even less relevant.

So beyond that, simply playing on his name and reputation as some sort of argument for authority is questionable to begin with, and it unfortunately unavoidably requires that we ask what sort of authority Flew is on the subject at present. The answer, like it or not, is that he is by his own admission unable, due to his age and condition, to be able to put too much effort or thought into sorting out or reading up on all the relevant issues.

I'm afraid Flews "conversion" is not nearly as light and devoid of substance and thought as Bad would have it. Antony Flew made headlines in 2004 when he made it known that after over fifty years of defending and defining atheism, he could no longer not believe in Something or Someone, as the AP reported at the time:

Flew said he's best labeled a deist like Thomas Jefferson, whose God was not actively involved in people's lives.

"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam, because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins," he said. "It could be a person in the sense of a being that has intelligence and a purpose, I suppose."


Benjamin Wiker: You say in There is a God, that "it may well be that no one is as surprised as I am that my exploration of the Divine has after all these years turned from denial…to discovery." Everyone else was certainly very surprised as well, perhaps all the more so since on our end, it seemed so sudden. But in There is a God, we find that it was actually a very gradual process—a "two decade migration," as you call it. God was the conclusion of a rather long argument, then. But wasn't there a point in the "argument" where you found yourself suddenly surprised by the realization that "There is a God" after all? So that, in some sense, you really did "hear a Voice that says" in the evidence itself " 'Can you hear me now?'"

Anthony Flew: There were two factors in particular that were decisive. One was my growing empathy with the insight of Einstein and other noted scientists that there had to be an Intelligence behind the integrated complexity of the physical Universe. The second was my own insight that the integrated complexity of life itself – which is far more complex than the physical Universe – can only be explained in terms of an Intelligent Source. I believe that the origin of life and reproduction simply cannot be explained from a biological standpoint despite numerous efforts to do so. With every passing year, the more that was discovered about the richness and inherent intelligence of life, the less it seemed likely that a chemical soup could magically generate the genetic code. The difference between life and non-life, it became apparent to me, was ontological and not chemical. The best confirmation of this radical gulf is Richard Dawkins' comical effort to argue in The God Delusion that the origin of life can be attributed to a "lucky chance." If that's the best argument you have, then the game is over. No, I did not hear a Voice. It was the evidence itself that led me to this conclusion.

I'm not sure what you think you are responding to Fitz, but you haven't actually contradicted what I've said, and you very obviously have not read much about this issue, because it's much larger and more convoluted than any short snippet. Flew has wandered his position all over the map, and compared to actual non-deistic believers, his particular shift IS pretty minor and devoid of rigorous substance (it is, after all, just a god of the gaps argument writ large, with little more that is compelling beyond that).

If you can explain why Flew rather tepidly buying into the same lousy arguments that theists have made for centuries is supposed to be interesting or illuminating, I wait to hear it.

Flew talks about 'The Integrated Complexity Argument'

Flew has been reading too many books about Irreducible Complexity, and only half-remembered them.

Glad to see the first comment suggests reading the interview between Flew and Habermas. It is a rare instance to find an interview between a theist and an atheist that is thought provoking, reasonable and civilized. This is what we need - reasonable discussion, rather than the usual name calling and slander whenever there is a discussion between atheists and theists.

Older people have knowledge, ideas, and experience to comunicate, but it may be that that an older person may need the assistance of a younger person to acheive that purpose. It is quite common that someone else will encourage or suggest that another person, whatever age, write about a subject of their knowledge. That doesn't conflate into "proof" that the person making the suggestion is actually writing the book. It requires a huge amount of cynicism to buy into all the suppositions that atheists are using to obscure the real value of Flew's work. I have read atheists calling for legal claims against the alleged authors of Flew's work, as though one can win a lawsuit on the basis of conclusory statements, (only if the court is corrupt!).

The allegations put forth by the atheist response, implicates that Flew sees eye to eye with his theist associates, but this is not the case. There is disagreement between Flew and the alleged "real authors" of Flew's work. The debates between Flew and Habermas commenced in the eighties. Flew's conversion didn't happen suddenly in recent years. Flew has been continually evolving his thinking throughout his life and he still is! Bravo for him!

Shame on the New York Times for trying to shift the focus away from the real discussion of genuine merit The Times deserves to win the award for the best yellow journalism in 2007.

I located the Stanley Fish piece on this book in the NY Times, Suffering, Evil and the Existence of God, as mentioned in the comment by Led, who states "Hmm. I read a Stanley Fish piece on this book in the NY Times, but it gave no indication of the unusual circumstances surrounding its creation."

There is a reference to the Times article in parenthesis at the end of Fish's article about Flew, which states " (In an article published Sunday — November 4 — in the New York Times Magazine, Mark Oppenheimer more than suggests that Flew, now in his 80’s, did not write the book that bears his name, but allowed Roy Varghese (listed as co-author) to compile it from the philosopher’s previous writings and some extended conversations. Whatever the truth is about the authorship of the book, the relation of its argument and trajectory to the argument and trajectory of Ehrman’s book stands.)

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