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The GOP and the Race Issue

14 Nov 2007 03:46 pm

Publius at Obsidian Wings asks, "why defend Reagan on race?" He writes:

Reagan’s race-baiting is beyond dispute. It happened too often, for too long, and too systematically. The more interesting question is why modern-day defenders of the Order of St. Reagan (like David Brooks) continue to whitewash it. Why not just say, “Yes, that part was shameful, but that’s not the complete picture.” Let’s just be honest about it.

The answer, I think, hits upon a much larger and more interesting theme. Modern conservatives – the majority of which are certainly not racist – have successfully ignored the racist foundations of much of modern conservative political power and even thought. It’s not so much that the doctrines remain racist today – or that they lack non-racist interpretations. It’s that they are historically rooted in racist backlash. In this respect, Reagan’s dark side is simply one part of a much larger pattern.

Okay, I'll say it, and I'm sure Brooks would as well: Yes, that part was shameful, but that's not the complete picture. But the second half of the sentence matters more than Publius allows. One reason conservatives are defensive about the race issue is that any concession on the subject is immediately seized on by liberals as proof that conservative policy on any issue related to race (which is more or less the whole run of domestic issues) is so irredeemably tainted that it need not even be argued against. It's true of contemporary controversies over affirmative action and immigration; it's particularly true of historical debates over what caused the collapse of the Roosevelt-LBJ majority, and the conservative realignment that followed. That's what the argument over Nashoba and other moments of possible Republican race-baiting is really about, in many cases: The extent to which we understand "the complete picture" of the Republican realignment as a story of racist backlash, full stop, end of story (which is how Paul Krugman understands it), rather than a story of liberal misgovernment on an epic scale, in which race played an important but ultimately subsidiary role (which is how I understand it).


You can see how this works in Publius' post. He repeatedly exonerates contemporary conservatives from the charge of racism, which is nice of him, but then offers this analysis of the Nixon-to-Reagan realignment:

Most obviously, Republican political power today rests on the race-based realignment that George Wallace first exploited. That’s why the term “Reagan Democrats” should actually be “Wallace Democrats.” Nixon and then Reagan both ruthlessly exploited white resentment to reshift the map. If you think these efforts don’t matter, check out how the bloc of Southern states voted in the 2000 and 2004 elections.

But more abstractly, much of modern conservative doctrine has foundations in racial issues. The clearest example is state rights and federalism ... Same deal for welfare and “law and order” slogans. This stuff was a bit before my time (I’m a post-Kaus Democrat), but I think Nixon’s law and order message was lost on no one. Neither was Reagan’s “welfare queens.”

Okay, but ... that's not the complete picture. The first politician to "exploit" the race-based realignment of the Deep South was Barry Goldwater, and you may recall how that worked out for him. The GOP traded the black vote (and the votes of many liberal Republicans) for the ex-Confederate vote in 1964, and it was an enormous net loss for the party. That's because the initial wave of civil rights legislation was extremely popular outside the Deep South: Seventy percent of Americans supported the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and even in the Border South Lyndon Johnson cleaned up, winning fifty-six percent of the vote in North Carolina, fifty-five percent in Tennessee, fifty-six percent in Arkansas, and so on. In the aftermath of the Johnson-Goldwater race, a "southern strategy" in which the GOP turned to the right and race-baited its way into the hearts of southern whites looked like a sure political loser.

It would have been, too, had other developments not intervened. Goldwater, it's worth noting, didn't just oppose the Civil Right Acts; he also played many of the same cards that Nixon and Reagan did, talking up law and order, critiquing welfare, and so forth. He did so because these are perennial conservative themes, not because he was a racist, and he lost anyway because they weren't themes that resonated with most American voters in 1964. They started to resonate in '68 and '72 and '80, though - not because white Americans in the Border South and the Midwest and the Mountain West suddenly figured out that they were code for hating black people, but because crime rates exploded over the quarter-century that followed Goldwater, and the (liberal-run) government seemed helpless to do anything about it.

Publius is right: "Nixon’s law and order message was lost on no one." It was lost on no one because violent crime went up three hundred and sixty-seven percent between 1960 and 1980. (Frankly, it's remarkable that Republicans didn't do a better job of exploiting the issue than they did.) So too with welfare, where conservative attacks on the system resonated as a national issue not because racist voters didn't want to give poor blacks handouts (though they didn't), but because the system really didn't work. And the proof is in the pudding: We still have a costly welfare bureaucracy that caters more to minorities than to whites, but it's no longer a political liability for liberals because the system is no longer the disaster that it became in the Seventies and Eighties.

Yes, you can argue that no civil rights movement would have meant no Republican realigment. But I think it's much, much more persuasive to say no crime wave, no Republican realignment. Or no urban collapse and welfare-system failure, no Republican realignment. Or no disastrous consequences of high-tax statist economics in the 1970s, no Republican realignment. Or no Roe v. Wade, no Republican realignment. Or no leftward shift in Democratic foreign policy, no Republican realignment. And the list of realigning factors goes on - with conservatives having far more to be proud of than to be ashamed of, I would argue, where the politics of the era are concerned.

Particularly since Republicans didn't take advantage of racism's political potency, but of its weakness. Southern whites were, and are, natural conservatives who happened to find themselves in the more liberal of the two parties; once Democrats associated themselves with the civil-rights movement, there wasn't anywhere else for white Mississippians and Alabamans to go except the GOP. Gerard Alexander's essay on "The Myth of the Racist Republicans" goes further than I would in downplaying Republican racism, but I think his point on this score is basically right:

Liberal commentators ... assume that if many former Wallace voters ended up voting Republican in the 1970s and beyond, it had to be because Republicans went to the segregationist mountain, rather than the mountain coming to them. There are two reasons to question this assumption. The first is the logic of electoral competition. Extremist voters usually have little choice but to vote for a major party which they consider at best the lesser of two evils, one that offers them little of what they truly desire. Segregationists were in this position after 1968, when Wallace won less than 9% of the electoral college and Nixon became president anyway, without their votes. Segregationists simply had very limited national bargaining power. In the end, not the Deep South but the GOP was the mountain.

Second, this was borne out in how little the GOP had to "offer," so to speak, segregationists for their support after 1968, even according to the myth's own terms. Segregationists wanted policies that privileged whites. In the GOP, they had to settle for relatively race-neutral policies: opposition to forced busing and reluctant coexistence with affirmative action. The reason these policies aren't plausible codes for real racism is that they aren't the equivalents of discrimination, much less of segregation.

... Kevin Phillips was hardly coy about this in his Emerging Republican Majority. He wrote in 1969 that Nixon did not "have to bid much ideologically" to get Wallace's electorate, given its limited power, and that moderation was far more promising for the GOP than anything even approaching a racialist strategy. While "the Republican Party cannot go to the Deep South"—meaning the GOP simply would not offer the policies that whites there seemed to desire most—"the Deep South must soon go to the national GOP," regardless.

So the GOP ended up bidding race-neutrality - which a conservative party would have naturally favored anyway, and which is not racism - and symbolic gestures like Reagan's opposition to MLK Day, his support for Bob Jones University's tax exemption, and so forth. These code words and gestures were real and shameful, and contemporary apologies like Ken Mehlman's mea culpa are entirely appropriate. But more often than not, I would submit, pundits who harp on this shame tend to do so because it's an easy way to leap to Krugman's conclusion that race explains everything he doesn't like about contemporary American politics, when in fact an awful lot of it is explained by the fecklessness of his liberal forebears.

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Most of the GOP has long abandoned the anti-Black bandwagon and have since moved on the anti-gay and increasingly anti-muslim train.

But more abstractly, much of modern conservative doctrine has foundations in racial issues. The clearest example is state rights and federalism ..

That is stretching liberal idiocy well past the breaking point. If that is the "clearest example" he can come up with, he's got nothing.

Anyone can go out and pick up a copy of "Reagan In His Own Hand", a collection of radio addresses he gave in the 1970's. Reagan was talking about "states rights" for twenty years. And try as you might, you'll not find the slightest hint of racism anywhere in his discussion of the matter. This is simply liberal projection.

Goldwater, it's worth noting, didn't just oppose the Civil Right Acts; he also played many of the same cards that Nixon and Reagan did, talking up law and order, critiquing welfare, and so forth. He did so because these are perennial conservative themes, not because he was a racist, and he lost anyway because they weren't themes that resonated with most American voters in 1964. They started to resonate in '68 and '72 and '80, though... because crime rates exploded over the quarter-century that followed Goldwater, and the (liberal-run) government seemed helpless to do anything about it.

First, the government wasn't "liberal-run" from 68 to 76. Second, let's not forget that Reagan's critique of welfare prominently featured "welfare queens in Cadilacs" and "young bucks who won't work..." Anti-welfare critiques and law-and-order appeals may be perennial conservative themes, but they were consistently promoted featuring negative black stereotypes throughout Reagan's political career. He could have chosen less-charged rhetoric. He chose instead to tell what amounted to n---r jokes. Lee Atwater was quite up front about all this, I see no reason why Krugman shouldn't be as well, regardless of the shortcomings of Jimmy Carter.

Yes, the GOP did a lot of disgusting, racist shit, but they were also very nice to their white friends so, you see, it all comes out race-neutral.

Do you ever wonder why, when the ghost of James Russell Lowell visits your bed at night, he looks so depressed?

There is nothing "racist" about the phrase "welfare queens in Cadillacs".

Lee Atwater was quite up front about all this

Was he really? Only if we believe claims made about him after he was conviently dead.

Anyone here remember Willie Horton?

Bob Jones University?

Katrina?

Yes, the GOP did a lot of disgusting, racist shit

Actually, that was the Democratic party, which did "disgusting racist shit" from the Civil War through the Civil Rights Act and beyond.

That evil racist Nixon, by contrast, implemented affirmative action by executive order.

By hey, don't let those pesky facts get in the way of your wonderful "narrative".

Great post. One thought: You don't mention school busing, which I think played a significant role -- it may have been the most incendiary issue of the '70s. Parents were seeing their kids bussed an hour or more across town to bad schools on the orders of liberal judges whose own kids went to private schools, and were being called them racist if they objected. I don't have any data, but I suspect that kind of thing created a lot of Republicans.

Anyone here remember Willie Horton?


I remember Willie Horton. What about him?

I remember Katrina as well. What about it?

It seems to me that you are simply misrepresenting the history of American conservatism. I think you're just factually wrong about the degree to which the Republican takeover of the south was a product of the Republican party's explicit and unapologetic support of segregation. And you and others who articulate your opinion have a glaring tendency to act as though racism was an extremist fringe position long before it actually became so in the conservative movement.

It's true, we should not let American conservatism shameful record on race to dominate the discussion of current issues, or to color our perception of the modern conservatice character. But it is a fact that that record is shameful, and it is equally true that race is the defining tension of American political history. Denying those things is just contraverting the historical record, it seems to me.

And, let me say-- this whole squabble to me is more telling about the GOP's bizarre guru worship of Ronald Reagan than their attitudes towards race. I mean, Jesus. Every column is a string of Hosannahs about the man. It's creepy.

Actually, that was the Democratic party, which did "disgusting racist shit" from the Civil War through the Civil Rights Act and beyond.

I'd explain that I was offering a condensed version of the original post, but I don't think you're really inclined to listen.

I think you're just factually wrong about the degree to which the Republican takeover of the south was a product of the Republican party's explicit and unapologetic support of segregation.

And yet, you can offer not a single shred of evidence to support your belief. While I can offer a huge body of evidence that you are wrong.

Doesn't that bother you just a little bit?

You can start off being citing all the evidence you have that the Republican Party gave explicit and unapologetic support for segregation. I think you are confusing it with the Democratic Party here.

I'd explain that I was offering a condensed version of the original post, but I don't think you're really inclined to listen.


Let me suggest that you work harder on your reading compehension. "The Republican Party did a lot of disgusting racist shit" is not a condensed version of it.

This is why I reread David Frum's book "How We Got Here: The 70's" about once a year.

- Freddie writes "Republican party's explicit and unapologetic support of segregation".

I suppose this is why once the Republicans took power in the southern state govermments and the national government they reinstituted the segregation laws. Oh wait, they didn't do that. Wily SOBs those GOPers, hiding their support for segregation laws by cleverly not passing segregation laws. To bad for them that Freddie knows they actually favor segregation even when they don't try to institute it.

James:

Wait just a minute! True, the pre-1964 southern wing of the Democratic Party was a racist, segregationist mess. But here's the thing: post-1964 they moved over to the Republican Party. Today's Democratic Party is what's left when you subtract, well, the south. (Note that, as a southerner, it pains me to say this...)

Your (amusingly enraged) posts about how Democrats were the real racists are thus disingenuous in the extreme. C'mon, dude! A little intellectual honesty!

The GOP did not "take over the South" until the late 1980's. If those "racist Southern whites" were angry about Brown v Board of Education, it took them a remarkably long time to do anything about it.

But then, mere facts pass through our liberal friends like neutrinos through the earth.

True, the pre-1964 southern wing of the Democratic Party was a racist, segregationist mess. But here's the thing: post-1964 they moved over to the Republican Party.

Except that they did not. They continued to vote Democratic, at every level below the Presidential, for decades afterwards.

The Democratics softness on communism and international affairs is what killed them in the South, not race.

Let me suggest that you work harder on your reading compehension. "The Republican Party did a lot of disgusting racist shit" is not a condensed version of it.

"These code words and gestures were real and shameful, and contemporary apologies like Ken Mehlman's mea culpa are entirely appropriate..."

On second thought, why bother? My guess is, your next move will be to say that "shameful" isn't about racism -- like maybe Douthat is talking about morse code.

First, in gaining on the Democrats the Republican party picked up popular support chiefly in the South--turned the South from solid Democratic to 8-5 (in House seats) Republican. If race wasn't central to the turn, why were Republican gains concentrated in the South? True enough, the white South is more religious, militaristic and conservative than the North. But it's also more racist.

Second, it's implausible that Reagan's reference to states rights during an unprecedented visit to the Neshoba County Fair in late summer of 1980 didn't signal he had something of value to offer his racist listeners. Implausible at that time and place, especially in light of Reagan's opposition to the Civil Rights Act. Still more so in light of his subsequent attempts to weaken the Voting Rigths Act, his opposition to the King holiday, his favoring tax exemptions for Bob Jones University, his efforts to remove tax burdens schools for whites, and his vetoing of a popular expansion of civil rights in 1988.

Until the sixties, it was the Democrats who employed "states rights" to protect racism. After 1964, it was the Republicans.

So, in your mind, "code words and gestures" are "disgusting racial shit", at least when done by Republicans.

But water hoses and bull whips are, presumably, okey-dokey. Because that was done by Democrats.

A little intellectual honesty!

That is, I'm afraid, too much to ask. Look, James, one conservative intellectual after another, including Ross, has admitted that it was the liberal wing of the Democratic party that ended segregation and drove the civil rights movement. Yours is precisely the kind of basic evasion that Brooks and Douthat and others hasten to point out that they aren't doing. The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act are the two most important pieces of civil rights legislation in our country's history. They were vehemently opposed by Republican party leadership. That is a fact. As Newt Gingrich said, "It was the liberal wing of the Democratic party that ended segregation." The degree to which the Republican party was a racist party, the amount that racial issues affected their political agenda, the length of time it took for that legacy to be eliminated in the party, what that legacy says about the Republican party of today-- all those things are open to debate, and are being debated all over. But when you engage in your current blanket denials, you are simply being a fantasist.

So, in your mind, "code words and gestures" are "disgusting racial shit", at least when done by Republicans.

Wow. And y'all are accusing me of misreading the post?

This McCann and Goldberg routine you and James have going is not helping your host's case. Next time try a little more righteous indignation about my bad language.

First, in gaining on the Democrats the Republican party picked up popular support chiefly in the South--turned the South from solid Democratic to 8-5 (in House seats) Republican.

This change took place over a period of thirty years. ( For some reason you failed to mention that detail.)If it was a reaction to the Civil Rights era, those Southerners must be really slow on the uptake.


Second, it's implausible that Reagan's reference to states rights during an unprecedented visit to the Neshoba County Fair in late summer of 1980 didn't signal he had something of value to offer his racist listeners.

Conjecture piled on top of conjecture. As I have already pointed out, Reagan had been speaking out strongly on states rights for many years. Why don't you read what he said on the topic and see if you can glean the slightest hint of racism from it? That would be the intellectually serious thing to do. Of course, you offer not the slightest evidence that his listeners were "racist". That seems to be just the usual liberal tendency to make gross generalisations about people passed on race and location. It's how you were able to justify screwing the blacks for a hundred years.


Until the sixties, it was the Democrats who employed "states rights" to protect racism. After 1964, it was the Republicans.

Regardless of what comforting stories liberals tell themselves, "states rights" is not the same thing as "racism", any more than nationalism is the same thing as Nazism.

I invite you to please explain how "states rights" in the hands of the Reagan era GOP was a synonoym for racism. Or are specifics too awkard for you?

That is, I'm afraid, too much to ask. Look, James, one conservative intellectual after another, including Ross, has admitted that it was the liberal wing of the Democratic party that ended segregation and drove the civil rights movement.

That would be an extraordinarally difficult thing for them to do, since it is not, in fact, the truth.

I have no idea if Ross has "admitted" this or not. If he has, he is simply wrong. It was Eisehower appointed judges who drove the civil rights era.

The Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act are the two most important pieces of civil rights legislation in our country's history. They were vehemently opposed by Republican party leadership. That is a fact.

It is most emphatically NOT a fact. The Senate passed the Civil Rights Act by a vote of 73 to 27.

By party, the vote was as follows.

Democratic Party: 46-22 (68%-32%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)

Republicans in the House also voted for the Act by a much greater margin than did Democrats.

Democratic Party: 153-96 (64%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

Lastly, Republican leadership voted for the bill. In fact the Republican Senate Minority Leader of the time, Everett Dirksen, played a key role in the passage of it. So, not to put too fine a point on it, you are telling lies here.

Even the not Republican friendly Wikipdia says that "As Republican Senate leader [Dirksen] played a highly visible and key role in the politics of the 1960s, including helping to write and pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964."

Here in Texas, the Democrats held EVERY major state office as late as 1991.

Today, of course, they hold none and aren't even competitive.

Would someone like to explain how we Texans, who apparently embraced Ronald Reagan because he said the right racist code words, kept on voting for the likes of Ann Richards, Jim Mattox and Bob Bullock for so long?

It's really remarkable how often the liberals on this board and on this topic resort to blatent falsehoods.

True enough, the white South is more religious, militaristic and conservative than the North. But it's also more racist.

I think you hit on the truth, but for a reason you don't see. The Democratic Party was for a long time almost two parties in one, the southern conservative wing and the northern liberal wing. Racism may have been one factor keeping southerners in the Democratic party, but also, the Republicans were quite liberal. Goldwater broke ranks and ran as a conservative, touching off the conservative movement. Nixon was a liberal Republican, and it wasn't until Reagan that an actual conservative won the Presidency. Even Reagan, however, had to deal with the Reagan Democrats—it wasn't until 1994 when Republicans captured the Congress that southerners finally moved to the GOP.

The more compelling explanation then, is that racism and inertia kept conservative southerners in the Democrat party. Once racism disappeared as a poltical goal (more GOP members of Congress voted for Civil Rights because the Democrats had all those southernors), they were left with conservatism. Instead of taking a moderate position, the Democrats moved left, and southerners had nowhere to go but to the GOP. The GOP didn't gain from racism. They gained from the end of racism as a political goal.

Sort of like why some speculate that Rove didn't want to have a Supreme Court that overturned Roe. It would take away an issue for the party.

Speaking of Willie Horton, who was the first candidate to try to use Willie as a weapon against Michael Dukakis?

It was Al Something... oh yeah, Al Gore! Al tried to derail Dukakis' nomination by raising the issue of Willie Horton and of Dukakis' stupid refusal to restrict the furloughing of murderers. Lee Atwater probably got the idea from Gore!

So... is Al Gore a racist? If not, why not?

In any case, would someone like to explain

1) Why Willie Horton was NOT a legitimate issue to raise?

2) Why Michael Dukakis couldn't have defused the issue by saying, "This was a terrible mistake, and I'm sorry I let it happen" rather than pig-headedly insisting to the bitter end that the system worked almost perfectly.

3) Why were LIBERALs not furious that a man like Horton was set loose to commit more crimes? Why was their first reaction to scream "Racist, racist, racist!" instead of to swallow hard and think, "Oh God, how could Dukakis have been so dumb?"

Well, Al Gore Sr (D-TN) did fillibuster the Civil Rights Act. Heck, perhaps Jr was being racist.

On the crime issue: if crime were such a major factor, wouldn't the GOP have shown the most gain in high-crime areas? To the best of my knowledge, most of their gain has come from the suburbs and rural areas, not the cities.

"The GOP traded the black vote (and the votes of many liberal Republicans) for the ex-Confederate vote in 1964..."

Minor correction: the GOP wasn't giving up the black vote, because they didn't have it to start with. The last Republican presidential candidate to win the black vote was Hoover. Goldwater certainly did reduce the GOP's share of the black vote even further (the Republicans' average share for the 1936-1960 elections was 30%; their average for 1968-2004 was 11.6%; Goldwater himself got only 6%).

On the crime issue: if crime were such a major factor, wouldn't the GOP have shown the most gain in high-crime areas?

What do you think prompted the deeply committed liberals of New York to elect people like Pataki and Giuliani?


The drop in crime over the last eighteen years has been a great boon to the Democrats, by taking that issue off the table.

Well, the Democratic Party defended slavery for 70 years, defended segregation for another 100 years and has been pimping on black misery to keep white liberals in office for the last 35 years. So, on the whole, I prefer to be Republican.

James writes: "There is nothing "racist" about the phrase "welfare queens in Cadillacs"."

You, sir, are either a shameless liar or the most ignorant, clueless cretin on the entire goddamn planet.

Or perhaps both.

While Republicans are far from pure on the race issue, the fact is that they under Lincoln destroyed the power of the slave-owning southern aristocracy and in the end saw through the destruction of slavery. Had the Democrats under McLellan won in 1864, they would have ended the war against the South and prolonged slavery in America.

Reagan, while not above posturing on state's rights, also, made a serious attempt to through the Urban League to win the black vote.

The prime concern of contemporary conservatives has to do with strengthening of families headed by men and women along with freeing up the economy to allow families to achieve financial security. The Democratic promises of security through government largess has proved to be a will of the wisp. Many blacks, including Alvin Poussaint, Bill Cosby, and Shelby Steele have caught on to this.

James, it's obvious that your Reagan worship has rendered you immune to evidence, but going to Philadelphia, MS and saying you're for states rights is a naked appeal to racism. Saying that that's conjecture is flat out bs. If you believe that it would be generous to say you're naive.

Despite being a liberal and perforce a Democrat, I have to admit that the Willie Horton ad always seemed fair to me. Yes, the man was black. But as Astorian says, he was also a good example of failures in Dukakis's administration for reasons that had nothing to do with his race. Crime is a real issue. It is not reasonable to take every "tough on crime" campaign stance as racist. Blacks commit a disproportionate number of violent crimes. There are a lot of social reasons for that, starting with their disproportionate poverty, but it's a fact, and it was more so in 1988. So any discussion of crime is disproportionately a discussion of black people (young black men, mostly). Let's even grant that probably a lot of white people find a "tough on crime" stance easier because their image of criminals is black -- but does that mean discussion of crime is off limits? Or that you can only discuss lowering penalties? Obviously not.

Probably a lot of white people responded to the Horton ad in a racist way. But you can't avoid that kind of result except by never mentioning any black person in any negative context in a campaign -- which would be a lot more racist, seems to me.

IF the Bush camp knew about an equally bad story about a white felon in Massachusetts, and they decided to go with the black guy instead, or they specifically looked only for black felons, or something like that, then I would feel differently -- but in 20 years, nobody has come up with that story.

"welfare queeen in a Cadillac," however, remains racist. The association of poor urban blacks with flashy cars was a joke in pop culture and blaxploitation flicks a long time before Reagan's campaign, and the "Great Communicator" didn't use code words by accident.

Regarding Al Gore and Willie Horton: I've read recently that Gore certainly brought up the subject of prison furloughs initiated (or approved?) by Dukakis. But Gore didn't mention any specific inmate who was granted a furlough.

Some Republican (Lee Atwater?) noticed what Gore had said and followed up on it. I suppose he unearthed Horton.

So the "rise" of Willie Horton took input from both Gore and Republicans.

Independently of that detail, it seems to me to have been a legitimate campaign issue, since it involved Dukakis's judgment on important public policy.

Paul writes: "So the "rise" of Willie Horton took input from both Gore and Republicans.

Independently of that detail, it seems to me to have been a legitimate campaign issue, since it involved Dukakis's judgment on important public policy."

Actually, no, it was just standard issue Republican race-baiting bullshit. Dukakis didn't start the furlough program in question here in Massachusetts - it was begun under Republican Ed King, and it was similar to the program California had under Saint Reagan. But relevance never seems to matter to the Repiglicans.

You know I was born in the South and I'm slightly irritated by the idea that "winning white Southern votes" instantly means "appealing to racism."

Many of my Southern relatives are racist, but some aren't and many are other things as well. The South does have other qualities than being racist. The South is also religious, has a strong military tradition, and a traditional hostility to utopian experiments. Comparatively few "utopian communes" ever emerged in the South compared to elsewhere. So a party that really plays up defense, anti-Communism, and religious morality was bound to do well. Also, as with other regions, they often go with someone from the area. Clinton did better in the South than any Democrat had for years. Carter carried the South better than he did any region in 1976 although he was also an Evangelical Christian.

In addition even the bigotry of the South isn't exclusively racist. To many old Southerners "welfare" is also code for "white trash." My Mom was quite white, but as she was a Catholic on welfare my more bigoted paternal relatives made it clear what they thought of her. Even now they say they were disappointed my Dad married her. So "welfare moms with lots of kids" could've also spelled "white trash" or "white trash Catholics" to many in the South.

I think if the Republicans play on bigotries now it's more cultural and religious. Some play on hostility to gays, Muslims, and to an extent Mexicans. Although Democrats play on bigotries too they just pick different groups like Mormons, Pentecostals, and to an extent rural white men.

James, you ignorant putz, go enlighten yourself on Atwater:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Atwater

The relevant entry:
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry Dent and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he’s campaigned on since 1964… and that’s fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster…

Questioner: But the fact is, isn’t it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps…?

Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, 'Nigger, nigger, nigger.' By 1968 you can't say 'nigger' - that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me - because obviously sitting around saying, 'We want to cut this,' is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than 'Nigger, nigger.'

Thomas R, you make a lot of good points. But saying states rights in Mississippi at that point in time at that place was an appeal to white racists, and arguing otherwise is laughable. However, appeals to white racists were hardly strictly a GOP thing, and appeals to racism work just as well outside the South in certain areas. I have vague memories of the busing riots in Boston, for example.

Re: The extent to which we understand "the complete picture" of the Republican realignment as a story of racist backlash, full stop, end of story (which is how Paul Krugman understands it), rather than a story of liberal misgovernment on an epic scale, in which race played an important but ultimately subsidiary role

Here I disagree. Yes, there was liberal misgovernment and yes that was bound to provoke a reaction, and a good thing it did. But it would not have been anywhere near the magnitude it was nor have the staying power it has shown. For counter-examples look anywhere in Europe, or in Canada. There leftist governments also screwed up when they were in power too long and they were replaced by rightwing governments, just as in the USA. But these proved transient, even the the most powerful of them (Thatcher in England), and the pendelum soon swung back the other way when people found that the Right also had no panaceas and was just as capable of screwing up on a grand scale. Our pendelum should have swung back too, in the early 90s-- a lot of people were expecting that. But the counter-reaction was very weak and didn't last: Bill Clinton was elected, but so was the Congress of 1994. So we've given the Right almost thirty years now to become far more corrupt and incompetent than the Left was at its worst. (I'd take Jimmy Carter incompetence over Bush incompetence any day. Far fewer people died because of Carter's mistakes, and even gasoline didn't get quite as pricey as it is now). So if not race just what was it that kept the Right going like some zombie Energizer Bunny long after its appointed time was over and it should have been hooked right off the stage.

Re: To the best of my knowledge, most of their gain has come from the suburbs and rural areas, not the cities.

Indeed, the GOP benefited from fear of crime mainly by people who had little actual experience with it. I grew up in a largely white subdivision (we had one Black family and a couple of Asians) and I recall hearing people trembling with dread at the "crime wave" when the worst that ever happened in our neighborhood were some rowdy drunken parties by teenagers when their parents were gone.

I invite you to please explain how "states rights" in the hands of the Reagan era GOP was a synonoym for racism.

Well, how about for a start thaat some of the states rights they sought protection for included not having to enforce voting rights laws and other civil rights measures.

And James, there are two distinct isssues here. One is Reagan's quite conscious effort to follow a southern strategy (pioneered by Nixon in 1968) using code words designed to appeal to racist voters. The second is the Democratic Party's long history of racism (e.g., Strom Thurmond had a long long history as a Democrat before he resurfaced as a republican). The truth of the latter in no way disproves the quite similar truth of the former.

James has made this thread worth reading. Well done.
Tracing the path of Democrats in this century from thug racists intent on keeping black people down by force to socialist nanny staters keeping black people down through a welfare state should turn anyones stomach.
Shame on our lefty friends who project their biases and hatred at people who don't pull the lever marked (D).

Also? Good to see the lefty trait of childish name calling never seems to go out of style. Even here.

Clearly in 1984, the only non-racist citizens in the entire United States were in Duluth,
St. Paul/Minn, Bemidji and Wobegon.

In 2007? Dupont Circle.

JonF, you might be right, or maybe not, but just because there were folks in your subdivision "trembling with dread at the crime wave" doesn't mean that the issue didn't resonate with working and lower-middle class folks in urban areas who confronted crime on a daily basis. No less a dyed-in-the-wool liberal than my mom, who kept photos of Fiorello LaGuardia and Bobby Kennedy on the wall of our kitchen in blue-collar Brooklyn, and whose father violated the McCarren-Walter Act to immigrate to the U.S. (being a former member of the Italian communist party) considered voting for Reagen because crime in NY had gotten so bad that she was afraid for her kids' safety.

Now that I live in a "gentrifying" neighborhood in DC where violent crime is completely out of hand and and I have a 9-month old, I am constantly worried about the safety of my wife and daughter. The crime here is so pointless, arbitrary, and dark-hearted, that I can understand the potency of the Horton argument and things like it as a reaction to what decent folks have to go through every day. I probably would not vote based on it in the end, but I could see myself being tempted to do so, not unlike my mom.

Ross:

This is straight out of "1984." One of the big functions of political correctness is to rewrite the past to destroy conservative heroes.

You have to fight political correctness _now_. I realize you were likely on your honeymoon when it happened, but how many people spoke up this fall against the crushing of America's most prominent man of science, James Watson? I can think of John Derbyshire, Edward O. Wilson, Pat Buchanan, and Richard Dawkins. But where was everybody else? And you wonder why we're having this stupid debate about why Reagan gave a speech at the same place that Dukakis gave a speech exactly eight years to the day later?

First, they came for James Watson, then they came for Ronald Reagan, then they came for ...

JonF,

I can think of two issues that helped the GOP in the 1990's more than anything, although there are probably more. The first was the Brady Bill, which Clinton himself said was the primary reason why the GOP took over Congress in 1994. The second was abortion. The GOP-led Congress began passing bills banning partial-birth abortion (which Clinton vetoed twice) that highlighted the Democratic Party's extremism on the issue.

Actually, now that I think about it, HillaryCare and Clinton's rather weak response to the First World Trade Center Bombing, the USS Cole, etc. didn't help the Democrats. Clinton signing welfare reform took that issue off the table, and while many people don't like affirmative action, not many get worked up enough to vote on it. In other words, I don't think race had much to do with it.

Let me get at the issue that I have been trying to explain in all of the Reagan/race issues.

I don't really care so much whether or not we can determine that Reagan and/or the Republicans in general used race as a way to get elected or played on racial fears to energize their base.

What I care about is whether or not those racial fears were legitimate.

You know, "law and order" was not a code word for "getting rid of uppity blacks" or "putting the black man in his place." Rather, in a high-crime environment where blacks committd murders at a rate eight times that of whites, incarcerating black men was necessary to preserve law and order. If blacks committed less crime, perhaps "Willie Horton" wouldn't have worked so well (yes, Dukakis did nto start the furlough program, but he didn't denounce it either).

And if, over the thirty years after the Great Society, black women hadn't moved toward birthing more than two out of three babies out of wedlock, maybe people wouldn't have such racial resentment over "welfare queens."

Sometimes one gets the impression that the Democratic Party wants to excuse black criminality and to perpetuate the single-mother-on-welfare lifestyle.

And maybe if there were some evidence that a standard test could be devised where the achievement gap between blacks and whites would lessen (rather than all testing being decried as racist because we can't get it to achieve politically correct results), people would not resent affirmative action so much.

The reason the GOP does so well is not because they pander to white racism but because the Democrats seem determined to pander to the "blame whitey for everything" mentality, and seem to condone all black misbehavior.

In the comments section on another post a few weeks ago, Steve Sailer commented on his parents-in-law refusing to follow the crowd and get out of their neighborhood early when it started to become majority African-American. (I am recounting the story as best as I remember it). A year or so later, after being mugged a few times, and the neighborhood going to pot in general, they finally gave up and left. A lot of leftist commenters on this blog basically said that it was racist to mention this and even implied that the parents-in-law might be racist if they thought that race had something to do with the increased crime rate.

When confronted by liberals whose reaction to such a story is "screw you" to Sailer and "screw them" to his in-laws, it is hard to see why a lot of whites wouldn't think that the GOP is a better home for them than the Democratic Party.

And that only makes the GOP racist if "racist" means "not hating whites."

Yes, tao9, because outside of Minnesota, Mondale got exactly zero votes. It's true, look it up!

Gus - you forgot D.C.

I stand corrected! Thanks Glaivester :)

Glaivester,
But you forgot to add in that there's "good blacks" too, right We're not all out there scaring Sam Sailer's in-laws...

Give me a break. Nobody is talking about excusing criminals of any color. What a lot of liberals are talking about is, "Why are things so bad that African-Americans have these problems"? It's a legit question and to respond to it correctly requires not papering over some very real discrimination that has occurred (and continues to occur) in this country.

David Lublin summarizes his findings as follows:
Most racial theories of partisan change point to 1964 as the critical year that polarized the electorate over the issue of race. However, the analysis presented in chapter 5 [of The Republican South] suggests that race did not begin to play a major factor in explaining white partisanship until the mid-1980s. The average southern white Democrat was not more liberal than the average southern white Republican on racial issues until after 1980. Despite the recent salience of racial issues, there appears to be some continuity with the past. The areas that provide the most ardent support for Republicans today are the same areas that supported Strom Thurmond--who ran on an anti-civil rights platform--in 1948. Since the mid-1980s, the influence of race has continued to grow. ...
Today, racial, economic, and social issues all play a roughly equal role in explaining southern white voting behavior, though economic issues remain the most powerful for now.

Thomas R says: "You know I was born in the South and I'm slightly irritated by the idea that "winning white Southern votes" instantly means "appealing to racism."

Many of my Southern relatives are racist, but some aren't and many are other things as well. The South does have other qualities than being racist. The South is also religious, has a strong military tradition, and a traditional hostility to utopian experiments."

All of those traits can coexist quite easily with racism, so you have no point.

The persistence of the Confederate battle flag in the South is prima facie evidence that racism is still a fact of life in the South. The many stupid and repugnant defenses for that symbol don't convince many rational outsiders - that symbol still stands for naked racism and will for long years to come.

Lee Atwater and Ken Mehlman both reached points where they could be honest about the GOP and its approach to gaining the votes of moronic white Southern bigots. Dingbat Repiglicans pointing out that Lincoln or Dirksen were progressives in their time don't manage to erase the fact that the modern Repigs have been the home base of white racists.

They haven't changed much. One of the current racist GOP memes is that American blacks should be grateful for slavery, since it has enabled them to live in America instead of Africa.

Imagine being dense enough to peddle that sort of shit.

Blacks in the South have a significantly higher life satisfaction. http://pewsocialtrends.org/assets/pdf/Race.pdf

In addition many of my racist relatives are Dad's generation. The Southerners I know who are under 35 are no more racist than the people here and possibly less so.

And Southern disdain of outsiders telling them what to do isn't always some racist thing. The Rocky Mountain West has a strong strain of localism as well, maybe stronger than the South's in some ways.

The South might still be more racist, but I don't think that's even certain. (America's worst racial riots were in New York, St. Louis, Los Angeles, and Oklahoma. The last could possibly be seen as Southern if you stretch it) Either way there are other factors that are as or more important. Even in the 1980s there were factors like abortion, defense, and crime. Focusing on race alone is a way of denigrating an entire people.

Thomas R writes: "The South might still be more racist, but I don't think that's even certain. (America's worst racial riots were in New York, St. Louis, Los Angeles, and Oklahoma. The last could possibly be seen as Southern if you stretch it) Either way there are other factors that are as or more important. Even in the 1980s there were factors like abortion, defense, and crime. Focusing on race alone is a way of denigrating an entire people."

Then you should be especially pissed over the GOP's Southern strategy, because according to GOP ultra-insiders like Lee Atwater and Ken Mehlman - who I would have to say knew/know a whole lot more than you or Ross about this issue - that's what the strategy was all about.

MikeP -

But you forgot to add in that there's "good blacks" too, right We're not all out there scaring Sam [sic] Sailer's in-laws...

Certainly, but I do not think that liberal policies on race, welfare, crime, education, etc., actually help bring out black people's better nature. Most of them, in fact, aim to stoke resentment against whites and to downplay the idea of personal responsibility and self-improvement.

As usual, no has bothered to consider what the targets of racism, African-Americans themselves, might think of all this. Given that they vote over 90% for Democrats, that ought tell Republicans something about what they think of the Republican Party. Cue the Democratic poverty pimp arguments.

Segregationists wanted policies that privileged whites. In the GOP, they had to settle for relatively race-neutral policies: opposition to forced busing and reluctant coexistence with affirmative action.

Just for fun, let's substitute a few words in the quote above:

Pro-lifers wanted policies that led to the nullification of Roe v. Wade. In the GOP, they had to settle for relatively abortion-neutral policies: opposition to partial-birth abortion and reluctant coexistence with a more-or-less steady abortion rate in the United States.

Given that the top quote supports the myth of racist Republicans, am I now supposed to believe the GOP is not a pro-life/anti-choice party?

MoeLarryAndJesus

I'm not uncritical of Reagan as you might think. I think he did some good things and I was uncomfortable with people who said he was in Hell almost as soon as he died. I also don't know if I agree he was exactly a race-baiter. Nevertheless he supported some of the worst tyrannies of modern times and embraced racists when it served his needs.

As for blacks voting Democrat meaning the GOP is anti-black I don't know why that has to be so. Many people just are in a party because their parents were. Many Catholics I know who are to the Right of me are Democrats because their parents were Democrats. The major Civil Rights legislation came during JFK and LBJ. Also "big government" has been one of the major forces against racism even during Nixon. I don't think this means the Republicans are racist, it just means that cultural and historic factors have made it's views of less interests to blacks. If we had something like a "Christian Democratic Party" that opposed abortion, same-sex marriage, capital punishment, and laissez-faire capitalism I think it's plausible many black voters would consider it. (Up to 20-30% going by surveys of blacks who identify as "conservative" or "Religious Right" in some sense)

Again, the supposedly bigoted white voters of Arkansas and Tennessee (the ones who recognized Reagan as a fellow racist because of his clever code words) had no problem electing Dale Bumpers and Al Gore to the Senate.

So, were they bigots when they voted Reagan but NOT when they voted for Bumpers and Gore? Or did Bumpers and Gore have their own clever code words?

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Underneath all the usual silliness, Moe has one valid point about Michael Dukakis: Dukakis did not create the furlought program (it existed before he was elected). Nor did he personally expand the program to include convicted murderers (it was the clowns on the Massachusetts Supreme Court who did that). So nothing Willie Horton did was Dukakis' fault.

What ruined Dukakis was the AFTERMATH of the Horton horror. When the Massachusetts legislature passed a bill to prevent murderers from being furloughed, Dukakis VETOED the bill, and insisted the program was just hunky-dory.

This is where a SMART liberal would roll his eyes and say, "Dukakis was an idiot! He COULD have accepted a few small changes to the program and the entire issue would have gone away." Instead, liberals found it easier to scream "Racist!" than to acknowledge their candidate had made a horrible mistake.

The extent to which we understand "the complete picture" of the Republican realignment as a story of racist backlash, full stop, end of story (which is how Paul Krugman understands it), rather than a story of liberal misgovernment on an epic scale, in which race played an important but ultimately subsidiary role (which is how I understand it).

I sure hope there's a third possibility because this dichotomy is really silly. Yes, the 70s sucked, and that allowed Reagan to win. But most of the policies conservatives would call "liberal misgovernment on an epic scale" are still in place today. Crime was still about as high when Clinton took office as when Reagan did, but had dropped like a rock by the time he left. Welfare reform was good, but it wasn't THAT good. The obvious conclusion is that things sucked in the late 70s for reasons other than U.S. government policy.

Conservative us vs. them rhetoric was better positioned for the late 70s/ early 80s era. That doesn't mean conservatives were racists, but it does mean that conservative success was a matter of better rhetoric, not better policies.

I remember Willie Horton. What about him?
I remember Katrina as well. What about it?
Posted by James

Anyone who insists that there was no racist content in the Willie Horton ad is acting well beyond disingenousness.

Was there an issue with the furlough program? Yes. Did Dukakis have a liability there? No doubt. Was it possible to frame the debate in policy terms rather than in an inflammitory manner? Not if Lee Atwater had anything to say about it.

As for Katrina, I long to hear your defense of Barbara Bush’s comments regarding the hurricane refugees in Texas.

Here's the main Willie Horton ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC9j6Wfdq3o
I don't see any racially inflammatory words. It does show a picture of Willie Horton's face when it talks about his many crimes. Maybe that's inflammatory, at least to people who are frightened of black people's pictures.

The other furlough ad from 1988 is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFk78R_qYM&feature=related Far from being racist, this ad seems to go out of its way to depict most of the prisoners as white.

As for blacks voting Democrat meaning the GOP is anti-black I don't know why that has to be so. Many people just are in a party because their parents were.

Obviously there is no unanimity on this accord, but speaking as an African-American growing up during the 80's, the general consensus was that Reagan and his party were anti-black. I know that many want Reagan and conservatives of that era to get the benefit of the doubt on their rhetoric about "states rights", "welfare queens", "quotas" and the like but together in context, African-Americans generally saw this as nothing more than a way to scapegoat them for America's ills and to signal to whites that we were the enemy.

Would someone like to explain how we Texans, who apparently embraced Ronald Reagan because he said the right racist code words, kept on voting for the likes of Ann Richards, Jim Mattox and Bob Bullock for so long?

Ann Richards's Republican opponent was Clayton Williams. During the campaign, he compared rape to the weather and remarked that women should "just relax and enjoy it." Remember that? He lost the 1990 gubanatorial race, but not by much.

Bob Bullock was a lieutenant governor, and though he was a long-time Democrat, he wasn't exactly liberal.

Jim Mattox, who was a liberal Democrat, did serve three terms in Congress and was the Attorney General of Texas for two terms. He ran for the Senate in 1994 and lost.

Bottom line is, Texas used to put a lot of conservative Democrats and an occasional liberal one in office, but for the last 20 years it's been a solidly conservative Republican stronghold. That's changing in a few places because of demographics, like in Dallas county, but I suspect the state will continue to elect the same folks it always has--conservatives, whether they be Democrat or Republican.

White conservatives, especially southern whites are for free markets as long as it benefits them. Once it does not benefit them they are against free markets. Example: In California, they voted against Affirmative Action becuase it benefitted blacks and Hispanics. Now without affirmative action, Asian Americans are the major beneficiaries and whites dont like it. Similarly, Lou Dobbs is against free markets when US corporations invest abroad, but he has little or nothing to say about Japanese and other foreign corporations invest in this country to the benefit of white Americans.

It's true, as James pointed out above, that more Republicans than Democrats voted for the 1964 Act (although I don't think Al Gore Sr. filibustered or even voted no--he didn't even caucus with the Southerners in the 50's and had always been liberal on race, as Kefauver was). But the Goldwater campaign changed things, and in 1965 the GOP was much more strongly against the Voting Rights Act. National Review opposed it (as they had opposed all prior Civil Rights legislation). Reagan opposed it. All those nice judges that Eisenhower appointed became targets of GOP hostility as they tried to make Brown v. Board an effective ruling. I don't know what happened at the time, but there is simply no doubt that the GOP went from a moderately pro-civil rights party to be an effectively anti-civil-rights party. No one tried to repeal the 60's acts, of course, but Republicans (including Reagan and the present occupant) have made a point of enforcing their provisions rather laxly.

And I haven't yet seen anyone mention the extremely punitive social program cuts under Reagan, which were targeted largely at the black populations of America's cities. He never touched spending on the white middle class (much less the rich), but depriving poor black kids of access to dental care, housing, transportation, and so on was no problem. That might not represent conscious racism, but it was a policy that was certainly racist in its effects. Ronald Reagan did nothing to fix the welfare state; he merely attacked it, with consequences that were not race-neutral, whatever Ross wants to say.

It is also interesting to see conservatives on this thread denying a racial undertone to the term 'states' rights.' What else could it have meant? Abolishing the TVA?
Look, racial inequality is still very real in this country. Republicans, by and large, have given up on trying to do anything about that. They might have principled reasons for doing so, but it is undeniable that the mainstream of the GOP has rejected any legislative or judicial remedies for America's history of racism and its very real, very persistent effects. Black Americans are not foolish to vote accordingly.

“I don't see any racially inflammatory words. It does show a picture of Willie Horton's face when it talks about his many crimes. Maybe that's inflammatory, at least to people who are frightened of black people's pictures.”

Posted by JEB

Again, this kind of response is the lowest form of sophistry. In effect, if the ad doesn’t claim to be racist, you refuse to admit that it’s intent is to appeal to racial stereotypes and fear of the same.

Context is everything. Atwater understood the impact of the Horton Ad. It went well beyond disgust with the furlough program. Every attempt you make to deny this only shows your willingness to wallow in obfuscation.

“Far from being racist, [the other furlough ad] seems to go out of its way to depict most of the prisoners as white.”

Context: This ad came later and was part of the continuing attack led by the Horton ad. Bush referred to Horton in his speeches, etc.

You think that by taking one part of the campaign out of context you can somehow argue that there was no context. You should try arguing a position that is more intellectually honest.