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Huckabee's Amateur Hour

12 Dec 2007 02:02 pm

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When I interviewed Mike Huckabee last month, the most amusing detail of the whole experience came when his (lone) aide murmured to me, apologetically, that the governor was running late to the interview because he needed to iron his own suit for a speech that afternoon. Everything in Zev Chafets’ profile of the governor for the Times Magazine confirms the importance of that detail, and the larger truth it represents – that Huckabee has come this far despite being woefully unprepared, whether organizationally or financially or policy-wise, for “what it takes” to win the Presidency. The Times piece has been getting scads of attention for Huckabee's comment about Mormonism's teaching that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers, and understandably so. But I think he's actually getting off easy if that's what people remember about the profile, instead of, say, this:

At lunch, when I asked him who influences his thinking on foreign affairs, he mentioned Thomas Friedman, the New York Times columnist, and Frank Gaffney, a neoconservative and the founder of a research group called the Center for Security Policy. This is like taking travel advice from Little Red Riding Hood and the Wolf, but the governor seemed unaware of the incongruity. When I pressed him, he mentioned he had once ‘‘visited’’ with Richard Haass, the middle-of-the-road president of the Council on Foreign Relations. Huckabee has no military experience beyond commanding the Arkansas National Guard, but he doesn’t see this as an insuperable problem. ‘‘What you do,’’ he explained, ‘‘is surround yourself with the best possible advice.’’ The only name he mentioned was Representative Duncan Hunter of California. ‘‘Duncan is extraordinarily well qualified to be secretary of Defense,’’ he said.

Or this:

Huckabee’s answer to his opponents on the fiscal right has been his Fair Tax proposal. The idea calls for abolishing the I.R.S. and all current federal taxes, including Social Security, Medicare and corporate and personal income taxes, and replacing them with an across-the-board 23 percent consumption tax ... Governor Huckabee promises that this plan would be ‘‘like waving a magic wand, releasing us from pain and unfairness.’’ Some reputable economists think the scheme is practicable. Many others regard it as fanciful. (For starters, it would require repealing the 16th Amendment to the Constitution.) In any case, the Fair Tax proposal is based on extremely complex projections ... Huckabee does not have an impressive grasp of its details. When I suggested, for example, that consumers might evade the tax simply by acquiring goods and services for cash on the black market, he seemed genuinely surprised.

In considering Huckabee's run for the Presidency, it's worth making a distinction between being qualified and being prepared. The obvious rap on Huckabee is that he doesn't have the qualifications necessary to occupy the Oval Office, and that it's absurd to imagine someone with his resume taking over 1600 Pennsylvania. I tend to think that's wrong, and that Huck is just as qualified for high office as most of the primary contenders in both parties. Serving two terms as a successful and popular governor in a state like Arkansas tells us at least as much about a candidate's mix of political skill and policy savvy, I would submit, as being a one or two-term Senator with a negligible list of accomplishments, and it isn't clear to me why Huckabee's lack of foreign-policy credentials are supposed to put him at such a disadvantage when contrasted with say, Barack "I was a child in Southeast Asia" Obama.

But when it comes to preparedness, to the hard work of scaling up one's understanding from state-level challenges to national issues that any aspiring candidate needs to do, Huckabee is way out of his depth. This was my sense talking to him, certainly. Set him off on health care or education or what-have-you in the context of Arkansas politics, and he's got enough juice to make you think: Here's a guy who might make a good President. But widen the focus to the nation as a whole, and you're left thinking: Here's a smart guy who hasn't come close to doing his homework. For a charming also-ran with a chance at the Vice-Presidency, that wasn't a problem. For someone leading in Iowa, it is.

Update: I see Lisa Schiffren beat me to my initial point about the Chafets piece. Jason Zengerle plucks out another choice quote here.

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Comments (20)

To me, Huckabee's problem is that he comes across as extemely gullible.

Read a book that says that you can solve all the world's problems with a 23% (actually 30%) sales tax? Sign me up!

Some guy got railroaded into a rape conviction? Set him free!

There's no skepticism, no "Where's the evidence?", no "What are other people saying?". As Bush has shown, that kind of unwillingness to look at all the evidence, consider both sides, comes with a huge price.

But widen the focus to the nation as a whole, and you're left thinking: Here's a smart guy who hasn't come close to doing his homework.

And this distinguishes him from other Republican candidates and a passel of Republican pundits how, exactly? (I think Yglesias has complained about this in the past, and at least one conservative commentator nodded in qualified acknowledgment of the justness of the complaint.) Does "Double Gitmo!" indicate some sort of sophisticated understanding of the War on Terror, or foreign policy generally?

Huckabee lacks DC institutional support, but if he gets the nomination, he'll get the advisors.

Agree with SCMT, but think Ross was going further and ripping Huck for being kind of dumb and was just using foreign policy to try to soften his rhetorical blow.

I also think that Dave is correct to focus on gullibility. A problem could be exacerbated by all the experience and prestige and publications and degrees that the SCMT advisors will bring with them. I mean, those types of folks will certainly want to give him a rapid education. And, no, I don't think that's a good thing.

Which is why I'm less interested in knowing whether Harvard educated, political pundit, daily paid blogger, Ross Douthat knows more about foreign affairs than Huckabee, than whether or not Huck's liable to be duped repeatedly in all sorts of matters, foreign and domestic, because of the gullibility issue Dave raises.

The fair tax is insane and impractical for a lot of reasons, but:

Some reputable economists think the scheme is practicable. Many others regard it as fanciful. (For starters, it would require repealing the 16th Amendment to the Constitution.)

Is that true? I thought the 16th Amendment just allowed the federal government to collect an income tax. Does it mandate that the federal government collect an income tax, prevent it from collecting other kinds of taxes, etc?

On the issue of Huckabee's gullibility and critical thinking ability, I notice that he graduated from Ouachita Baptist University, a school which offers numerous courses (and a major) in biology - and none of the course descriptions use the word "evolution."

I'm sure some quite bright people emerge from such schools, and our current president is an example of the fact that Yale turns out morons, but given Huckabee's apparent lack of knowledge about so many things, I suggest he's just not up for the job.

We've had one Christianist goober sitting in the office for 7 years, and look what that's done. I have no interest in another one, ever.

The upshot of all of this seems to be that Huckabee's running to be Giuliani's or McCain's VP . . .

Hucabee knows Romney can't pick him (too much religious friction on the ticket), so his best move is to act as a stalking horse for the eventual (non-Romney) nominee's interests: knocking Romney off his springboard in IA. That would seem to explain his rather bizarre policy proposals, his lack of a real organization, and his self-immolating attacks on Mitt.

It's a fundamental irony that being a governor prepares you best for a presidential campaign -- you can run against Washington, and on executive experience that's not particularly familiar to people outside your state -- but is shoddy preparation for the job itself. (James Bryce is proved right once again.)

Now, Huckabee has all the muddied William J. Le Petomane thinking that you'd frankly expect of a state governor, though he doesn't display the varieties of bullshit offered by Giuliani and Romney. He does, however, drop barbs into conversations like a high-school Heather.

This is an appropriate time, I think, to quote some of the OTHER things Huckabee said in that NYT interview:

"The governor was especially happy that morning about an impending endorsement he expected (and
received the following day) from Tim LaHaye, the author of the apocalyptic ‘Left Behind’ series of novels. 'Left Behind' is wildly popular among evangelicals, who have bought more than 65 million copies, making LaHaye a very rich man and one of the few writers who is also a major philanthropist. Recently he donated a hockey rink to Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University, although some members of the faculty there deride 'Left Behind' as science fiction. Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, has no such reservations. He considers the 'Left Behind' books, in which the world comes to a violent end as Jesus triumphs over Satan, a ‘compelling story written for nontheologians.’...

"Huckabee’s affability and populist economic and social views have sometimes been misinterpreted as a moderate brand of evangelical Christianity. In fact, as he wrote in his book ‘Character Makes a Difference,’ he considers liberalism to be a cancer on Christianity. Huckabee is an admirer of the late Jerry Falwell (whose son, Jerry Jr., recently endorsed his candidacy) and subscribes wholeheartedly to the principles of the Moral Majority. He also affirms the Baptist Faith and Message statement: ‘The Holy Bible . . . has truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter. Therefore, all Scripture is totally true and trustworthy.’...

"Charles Dunn, dean of the school of government at Regent University...offers a possible explanation for the resistance [to Huckabee's candidacy] from [other] born-again leaders. ‘Mike Huckabee isn’t just another politician,’ he told me. ‘He is an evangelical minister. If he does well in Iowa, as he appears to be doing, he will become a national figure no matter what happens after that. He could wind up eclipsing all the other evangelical leaders in this country in one fell swoop. And you know what it says in the Book of Proverbs. "Envy is the rottenness of the bones." ’...

"His father brought him up with biblical spare-the-rod-and-spoil-the-child ferocity. ‘I feared him,’ Huckabee told me. ‘Even though I know today that what he did, he did out of intense love.’...

"In his home state, Huckabee has a reputation for an elephantine memory for slights and criticism. ‘The local cliché about him is that he is thin-skinned,’ says Prof. Janine Parry, who teaches Arkansas state politics at the University of Arkansas. ‘And he can be mean. The national press hasn’t seen much of that. So far he’s kept it under control.’...

"Assailing Hillary Clinton for failing to denounce MoveOn.org’s attack on Gen. David Petraeus, he said, ‘If you can’t get your lips off the backside of George Soros long enough to use those lips to say it’s wrong to declare a sitting general... guilty of treason, how would you ever expect to have the support of the very military you might have to send into deadly battle?’...

"Casey Van Weelden summed up local sentiment [in one Iowa small town]: ‘Huckabee’s a moral man. He’s a preacher. And he lost a hundred pounds. He’s going to do all right in Iowa. What I don’t know is how he’s going to go with the rest of the country.’ "

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Note: one of the main themes of the "Left Behind" books -- stated and restated in lengthy passages -- is that it is a very serious mistake to think that ANY degree of morality will by itself save you from the Fires of Eternal Hell; you absolutely have to be a Christian to escape that. (At the end, Jesus sends all his opponents "screeching" into those fires with "a mere wave of his hand", at which point the earth opens up and swallows all of them.)

Personally, this guy is much too similar to the villain in Robert Heinlein's "If This Goes On..." for my comfort. (For those who don't remember that 1940 book, said villain is "a backwoods Bible-shouter" who becomes dictator of the US during a period when the nation is in a particularly panicky mood.)

At the end, Jesus sends all his opponents "screeching" into those fires with "a mere wave of his hand", at which point the earth opens up and swallows all of them.

That's also Huckabee's strategy for winning the New Hampshire primary.

"Huckabee lacks DC institutional support, but if he gets the nomination, he'll get the advisors."

Posted by SomeCallMeTim

This is just a restatement of what we were reassured about Bush back in 1999. It was a bad idea then, and a worse idea now.

Every single nuclear submarine captain in the US Navy is more qualified to be Chief Executive than every single candidate for the job in both parties.

Maybe it's always been like that since Ike left office, but 2008 seems particularly awful.

Steve Sailer's just wanking his uniform fetish again. Jimmy Carter was a submarine commander, and would most likely have commanded a nuclear submarine had he stayed in the Navy. I'm guessing he isn't a Sailer fave.

Given the piece of shit that's been occupying the White House since 2001, I'm not especially worried this time around. We can't possibly do worse - unless, of course, Giuliani gets in.

You shuld never call George W a piece of shit. There are some good uses for shit.

Every single nuclear submarine captain in the US Navy is more qualified to be Chief Executive than every single candidate for the job in both parties.

You mean because of all of the logrolling and coalition building that you have to do on board a submarine just to get it from point A to point B? That makes me feel secure about the weapons in their care.

This is just a restatement of what we were reassured about Bush back in 1999. It was a bad idea then, and a worse idea now.

It was a bad idea because the Republican Party has a substantially larger crazy wing than anyone--probably including the Republicans--thought. Are you really more comfortable with an FP led by Rudy, as advised by NPod and Daniel fucking Pipes?

Any Republican is likely to make a bad President. They need to read out the crazies.

I don't have a dog in whether Huckebee or Romney or Giuliani gets the Republican nomination, but I wouldn't take much of anything Lisa Schiffren says very seriously. Every word that comes out of her mouth, and Kathryn Jean Lopez's mouth, is muffled because they're still trying to accomodate their speech around Mitt Romney's genitalia.

Seriously, read anything on "The Corner" posted by those two. It doesn't matter what the subject is, it's going to sound like this:

K-LO: Mmmph mmph Mitt Romney Mitt Romney mmmmm...

Lisa: Gooooo Mitt! We love you, Mitt! *Slurp slurp swallow*

Look, Lisa just posted about Huckabee's apology to Romney about the devil-God-brothers thing, and she manages to work in a hundredweight of sarcasm by constantly referring to Huckabee as "Huck." Then she suggests that Jesus doesn't want him to run for president.

Again, no love for Huck here, but, wow, what a stupid bitch.

"There's no skepticism, no "Where's the evidence?""

No kidding. He repeated that email-forward tripe about science and "aeronautics" (sic) saying that bumblebees cannot fly (which is both now straight out wrong, and was always very misleading) as if it were god's own truth, instead of a dumb-as-rocks headslapper recycled in a Jerry Seinfeld movie.

And he seems to think that America should commit to being "free of energy consumption" within a decade. I can't wait to see how he plans on accomplishing THAT campaign promise! Maybe by wiping out all life on the planet?

Bad writes: "And he seems to think that America should commit to being "free of energy consumption" within a decade. I can't wait to see how he plans on accomplishing THAT campaign promise!"

Fundies and science are always a comedic combination. Years and years ago in a discussion about Genesis vs. science I witnessed a fundie claim that the Noah's Ark fable could be verified as true because "flood particles" had been discovered all over the Middle East. Yes, those incredible flood particles.

I don't care how inane these people are if I'm buying a muffler from them or hiring them to coach a football team. But the White House seems like a pretty good place to draw the "you're too frigging stupid" line.

Well, it's the usual problem.

Re: The Fair Tax, the people who're gullible are the ones who swallow whole all the criticisms of the plan, without ever realizing those criticisms completely mis-state the plan or refer to another plan entirely. Bruce Bartlett, National Review, and other conservative icons have repeatedly gotten the whole plan wrong in important details, and come across as ignorant to anyone who's spent five minutes at http://www.fairtax.org.

The sole criticism of the plan that was accurate was Rich Lowry's observation that -- even if the plan were rather good [as it, in fact, is] it will never be implemented even if passed because it contains a provision stating that it goes into effect on day 1 of the year following the repeal of the 16th Amendment...and that, in a society so easily swayed by leftist class-warfare demagoguery, ain't never gonna happen. Now THAT'S an actual, reasoned argument against it...far more than the 30%/23% mathematical nomenclature nonsense, or the "it'd have to actually be higher" stuff which invariably results from criticizing the wrong plan.

Anyway, Lowry's correct. It ain't never gonna happen. So why get distracted by the FairTax debate? It makes more sense to focus on the following:

(1.) Huckabee's pardoning of criminals is, well, criminal;

(2.) You can't be a politician in Arkansas without indulging in corruption, and Huckabee is no exception, and is therefore exposed to easy attack and a few guaranteed "October Surprises" from the DNC;

(3.) Huckabee thinks detente with Iran is a good idea, which is a lot like Israel thinking that detente with Hamas would be a good idea;

(4.) Huckabee is not conservative on issues of government involvement with health care; if anything, he sounds like he's pining for an expansion of the nanny-state;

(5.) Huckabee is a former Southern Baptist Minister. The sole reason for the favorable press he's getting from the Mainstream Media up until now is (a.) he wasn't a plausible contender and (b.) he was saying things which discomfit the rest of the GOP, which is always a sure way into the MSM's good graces (just ask John McCain, Arlen Specter, or just about any other RINO who makes himself inconvenient to Republicans as a whole for a season).

But if Huckabee becomes the nominee, then suddenly the narrative changes. It'll suddenly be "Southen Baptist against the woman he thinks should be submissive and stay at home" (if the Dems nominate Hillary) or "Southern White Male homophobe whose grandfather probably owned slaves against the exciting, high-minded, and idealistic African-American candidate who embodies the hopes and dreams of all minorities against their traditionalist good-ol'-boy oppressors" (if the Dems nominate Obama).

In short, no-one can rationally think that the Mainstream Media will continue to treat Huckabee so gently when, finally, the race is between him and Democrat X! Not a chance. See re: the G.W.Bush National Guard/Dan Rather debacle for an instructive refresher on media bias. They are merely holding their fire until they see the whites of his eyes; that is all.

And, sadly, in modern U.S. politics, the effects of that media bias will by itself give the Democratic candidate a 5-15 point lead. If the Media only mildly dislike the GOP candidate (e.g. John McCain or Rudy G.) the milder intensity of bias will grant the Democrats 5 points. If the Media intensely hate the GOP candidate and he comes from a background which they find easy to demagogue (e.g. white southern evangelical male), the bias will be more intense, and the equivalent contribution to the Democrat candidate will be more like 10 or 15 points.

That's the sad truth, and it'll guarantee a Democrat in the White House if Huckabee is the nominee.

For these reasons, Fred, Mitt, Ron, Rudy, Duncan, or John will make a far better GOP nominee than Huckabee. And I speak as a Southern Baptist who kinda likes Mike Huckabee's style, even if I think he's a bit dim. We're not electing a theologian-in-chief, of course, but I wouldn't mind seeing a fellow Southern Baptist in the Oval Office, were he only a small-government hawkish conservative like me. Huckabee is a Southern Baptist, but none of the other things. I'll have to look elsewhere.

R.C. writes: "I wouldn't mind seeing a fellow Southern Baptist in the Oval Office, were he only a small-government hawkish conservative like me."

There is no such thing as a "small-government hawkish" ANYTHING. The inability of Bushpigs to understand this simple truth is one big reason for their incredible incompetence and lack of connection to reality.

Hah - another incurious Bush type non-intellectual? Just what we need, heh - either an anti-intellectual religious nut like Huck, a sleazy authoritarian neocon like Rudy, and Mitt - says he supports GWB, which is of course a signal to the powerful that he will protect their interests at the expense of the rest of us. They have no one worthy in the top tier.