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Obama Messiah Watch

04 Jan 2008 02:32 pm

Ezra's got a fever, and the only prescription is more Obama ... :

I've been blessed to hear many great orations. I was in the audience when Howard Dean gave his famous address challenging the Democratic Party to rediscover courage and return to principle. I have heard Bill Clinton speak of a place called Hope, and listened to John Edwards bravely channel the populism that American politics so often suppresses. Some of those politicians mirrored my beliefs better than Obama does. Some of their speeches were more declarative and immediate in their passion. But none achieve quite what Obama, at his best, creates.

Obama's finest speeches do not excite. They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. They enmesh you in a grander moment, as if history has stopped flowing passively by, and, just for an instant, contracted around you, made you aware of its presence, and your role in it. He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh, over color, over despair. The other great leaders I've heard guide us towards a better politics, but Obama is, at his best, able to call us back to our highest selves, to the place where America exists as a glittering ideal, and where we, its honored inhabitants, seem capable of achieving it, and thus of sharing in its meaning and transcendence.

I, too, am favorably disposed toward Barack Obama, and enjoy listening to his speeches; he's the finest rhetorician in the current Presidential field, no question. I cannot honestly say that he makes me feel as though history has contracted around me, or that I'm being called back to my highest self, but maybe I'm just not listening hard enough. Or maybe my highest self just isn't sufficiently resolute in its opposition to D.C. special interests to hear on the Isaiah-esque frequency he's hitting.

I should also note that when I do listen hard, like Reihan I sometimes find myself thinking, man, this guy's full of himself.

Comments (18)

Ezra is also a moron.

Shouldn't we be allowed to at least sample the kool-aid of the guy on our own side?

"I, too, am favorably disposed toward Barack Obama"

At least until you find out that he had a big TV back in his salad days...

If you can make a left-wing jewish blogger feel The Rapture, you must be one hell of an orator.

Am I the only one irritated to hear any of these guys described as an "orator" or a "rhetorician?" It was a decent speech, but it was hardly In Catilinam. Perhaps I'm just being a grouch, but I don't think you hear anything these days as good as JFK or Churchill, and even they're a long way down from Lincoln...

Anyway, I'm sympathetic to the full-of-himself charge, and would like to draw your attention to this item in TNR:

http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/01/04/here-s-one-for-the-hillary-fans.aspx

I should also note that when I do listen hard, like Reihan I sometimes find myself thinking, man, this guy's full of himself.

I'll just throw out there that merely running for president is an act of tremendous arrogance. Every single one of these candidates is hugely full of himself or herself. They think they can do that job; they think they deserve that job.

I've been trying to figure out why this line is mainly rehearsed against Obama and not, for instance, Hillary. She is, after all, suggesting (quite dodgily) that she is so uniquely experienced that she's the only candidate ready to be President of the United States. That's pretty arrogant too, as are many many other aspects of Hillary's conduct. I doubt many people seriously dispute that Hillary has an unusually high opinion of herself, but few see it as worthy of comment.

Maybe the explanation is that if you're looking to attack Hillary, there's an embarrassment of riches, so the strength of each attack is fairly dilute. But if you're looking to attack Obama, there are fewer weapons to hand, so each attack is regularly rehearsed and thus gains currency and resonance.

Let the Obama backlash begin! With any luck, it will occur in time to block his path to the nomination.

I've been trying to figure out why this line is mainly rehearsed against Obama and not, for instance, Hillary.

One reason, at least, is that Obama's run is ostentatiously premature. To run for president after only two years of major-league experience seems to implicitly assume that you think you're just so awesome the world can't wait for you.

Another reason is the over-the-top way Obama's supporters describe him. They think he's the second coming, and this gets transferred, perhaps unfairly, to Obama himself.

Oh come on now. I'll put it even more simply... anyone who is running for President is essentially saying "I believe that I deserve to be THE MOST POWERFUL PERSON IN THE WORLD."

Humility is not a central value of any Presidential candidate, even if many feign it.

"I sometimes find myself thinking, man, this guy's full of himself."

He was a Contracts professor at one of the country's leading law schools at an early age - not exactly a position for the timid or the stupid. At least he didn't write a book about his undergraduate college experience.

Obama's Word according to Ezra: They do not inform. They don't even really inspire. They elevate. They enmesh you in a grander moment, as if history has stopped flowing passively by, and, just for an instant, contracted around you, made you aware of its presence, and your role in it. He is not the Word made flesh, but the triumph of word over flesh, over color, over despair. :roll:

Praise the Lord but pass the ammunition for John McCain.

Peter Leavitt says: "Praise the Lord but pass the ammunition for John McCain."

He'll need plenty of ammunition for his 100 year Holy War.

Of course he's a little too old to use any of it himself, Peter, so pass him some Depends instead.

Ezra on Prospect, Joe C on Salon, etc. are all wrong. They, Atrios, Daily Kos, Matt Y., etc. are all HRC wannabes. They love Clintons. They will benefit from their return - more columns, more access, etc.

Obama is a threat to them. Why? May be because they cannot stand an upstart like Obama.

They are no different than Sharpton or Clinton.

Reject these bozos.

Vote for Obama

Luckily, Romney, McCain, and Giulliani are not full of themselves at all.

Compare the times obam says 'we' vs. 'I' and 'you' to a similar count for Sen Clinton then tell me who is full of him/herself. hge is talking about how much we can do together while she is talking about howmuch she can do for us.

I think the arrogance Ross is hearing stems from Obama's sense of his potentially historic role the first black president. Much of his inspirational, "the time for me is now" rhetoric derives from that. I basically think it's forgivable to see yourself as a Vessel of Change when you're the first viable black presidential candidate. And yes, none of these people are short on self-regard.

I'm sure Ezra has heard more great speeches than most people his age, but keep in mind that he is TWENTY-THREE GODDAM YEARS OLD. I haven't heard the speech in question, but I could probably be persuaded that Obama is the best orator in big-time politics since the Papa Bush years (which is about as far back as young Mr. Klein could be expected to remember).

I think, in terms of skill at delivery, Obama is exceptional. Although I'm also of the youngish set, I've listened to recordings of Reagan's and Kennedy's speeches, and in terms of delivery Obama is definitely comparable and, at his best, better.

My issue with his speechifying is that content-wise they all sound the same to me. Some variety on theme, please!

There's a myth that Reagan was persuasive only because he was an actor. Actually, Reagan wasn't that good at delivery when he was President because he stumbled so much because he was so old and had been shot. The written quality of his speeches, however, was very high. As a Reagan supporter, I much preferred to read the transcripts of his speeches than to listen to my man bumble through them.