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28 Jan 2008 09:38 am

The idea that political preferences are rooted in aesthetic preferences is ultimately pernicious, I think – but sometimes it’s hard to resist. Here, for instance, we have Will Wilkinson, rebutting a Virtue-boosting, libertarian-hating argument for the candidacy of John McCain:

I am more and more coming to the conclusion that National Greatness Conservatism, like all quasi-fascist movements, is based on a weird romantic teenager’s fantasies about what it means to be a grown up. The fundamental moral decency of liberal individualism seems, to the unserious mind that thinks itself serious, completely insipid next to very exciting big boy ideas about shared struggle, sacrifice, duty, glory, virtue, and (most of all) power. And reading Aristotle in Greek.

I sometimes think that liberal individualism is something like the intellectual and moral equivalent of the best modernist design — spare, elegant, functional — but hard to grasp or truly appreciate without a cultivated sense of style, without a little discerning maturity. National Greatness Conservatism is like a grotesque wood-paneled den stuffed with animal heads, mounted swords, garish carpets, and a giant roaring fire. Only the most vulgar tuck in next to that fire, light a fat cigar, and think they’ve really got it all figured out. But I’m afraid that’s pretty much the kind of thing you get at the Committee for Social Thought. If you declaim the importance of virtue loudly enough, you don’t have to actually think.

Allowing for a certain amount of deck-stacking on Will’s part (I’d prefer that the carpets not be too garish, obviously, and I don’t care much for taxidermy), the den with the roaring fire sounds awfully homey and appealing, while even “the best modernist design” often seems to me essentially chilly and faintly inhuman, and thus better admired from afar than actually inhabited. As Will says, this preference almost certainly reflects my lack of “discerning maturity” and my failure to “cultivate” my sense of style. There is, though, the vanishingly small possibility that certain forms of modernist design, like the stringent libertarianism that Will compares them to, emerge from an impatience with, well, actual human beings – with their abiding messiness and irrationality, with their particularist loyalties and romantic attachments and juvenile yearnings for solidarity, for heroism, for transcendence. Rational, mature beings, after all, would be perfectly happy living in the spare, elegant functionality of, say, an enormous housing project; only reactionaries and adolescents would cling to the clutter and disorder and, yes, the outright tastelessness of the old ethnic neighborhoods, where worse monstrosities than wood-paneled dens abounded.

But perhaps I’m pushing the analogy too far.

To leave aesthetics behind for a moment, the real problem with the “Virtue and national greatness” theory of politics isn’t so much that it’s more impressed by John McCain’s wartime heroism than by Will Wilkinson’s “discerning maturity” about what really matters in life. It's that it frequently seems to confuse the virtues necessary for battlefield valor with those necessary for governance - and worse, that it sometimes seems tempted to make a national policy out of the pursuit of wartime heroism, or at least the contexts (i.e. near-perpetual warfare) in which such heroism can be attained.

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...but hard to grasp or truly appreciate without a cultivated sense of style....

Ohhhhhhhh. And here I thought secular liberalism was elitist. It's not fashionable nihilism...I just lack Bildung.

Re: The fundamental moral decency of liberal individualism seems, to the unserious mind that thinks itself serious, completely insipid next to very exciting big boy ideas about shared struggle, sacrifice, duty, glory, virtue, and (most of all) power.

I would agree with you that the hedonistic, garden suburb utopia that Mr. Wilkinson appears to endorse is atrocious, and not worth fighting for. But I don't think that shared struggle, sacrifice, virtue, and the desire to be dissolved into some great cause that gives meaning to life, are at all the exclusive property of the Right. Indeed, the 1950s bourgeois America that conservatives seem to
aspire to was widely criticized for lacking these very things.

They may be incompatible with liberalism, but not necessarily with Left wing radicalism. In fact, a good many young people- and people of all ages in developing countries- who do cherish these things seem to gravitate to the radical left rather than to the conservative right.

"essentially chilly and faintly inhuman"...you think? libertarianism, especially as propagated by Wilkinson, is inhuman. it's another form of the Crystal Palace Dostoevsky spent most of his later life railing against. someone needs to pass along a copy of Notes from Underground to Will.

It doesn't follow that those who favor economic liberty don't care about virtue. Washington, Hamilton, and Eisenhower were strong in both. Lincoln, the greatest of presidents, while not a warrior, was superior in qualities of virtue.

McCain, though he occasionally wanders off the libertarian reservation, has a solid record on economic and social issues as well as being a man of extraordinary courage as a prisoner of war. In fact it is McCain's proved virtue that could give him and the Republicans a victory over Obama or Clinton.

Narrow Libertarian intellectuals including Wilkinson, who denigrate virtue as some a form of immaturity don't come close to the depth of virtue that most Americans have valued in their best leaders.

Virtue made some type of sense when the citizenry was made up of citizen-slaves in a place like Sparta that stressed masculinity, denigrated the feminine and were xenophobic: they were small enclaves with unique political systems. However, capitalism proved a lot more successful in accumulating the wealth to provide for a professional military than an imperial system that used war as an end in itself to expand borders and instill young men with virtue. Virtue (or, as seem to be hinted at here, virtu`), is simply not necessary today. There is a difference between that and a sense of decency. Virtue is useless if you don't know what to do with it. A folsky humorist with a pacifist streak like Molly Ivons saw the ethnic conflict the Iraq War would unleash, yet she never seemed full of proto-fascist virtue, and thus made the more ethical choice. McCain may be a war hero, but all of his virtue means nothing if he can't exercise good judgment.

Wilkinson will doubtless soon be berating us for not listening to enough Schoenberg.

The problem with this whole "virtue and national greatness" motif in politics is that these ideals are soaked in blood. These are the political aesthetics that brought us World War One, were rejected by all right-thinking people, and then were seized upon and twisted by the people who brought us World War Two, gulags, and concentration camps.

There's no goddamned virtue or honor in a life of duty and sacrifice to a state that's hellbent on exporting violence. The only decent way to atone for the sins of the Twentieth Century is to drive a stake through the heart of the aesthetics of national greatness and virtue.

But we can also kick Will's soulless libertarian modernism to the curb while we're at it. This widespread desire for a greater meaning in life than mere self-interest can be channeled in productive political directions. And there's something to be said for the aesthetics of a comfy chair by the fireplace with well-stocked dusty bookshelves -- a simpler, less commercial life.

But let's leave those juvenile longings for heroism and virtue dead, buried, and rotting away in the unmarked grave where they belong.

Mr Wilkinson lives in an awfully drab little world if he really thinks that liberal individualism matters more than Aristotle.

The original WS article is actually not bad. The only problem is holding McCain up as some kind of paragon of virtue. Since when are imperialism and militarism (along with the lies necessary to sustain them) confused with virtue? Attaching the concept of "virtue" to the biggest defender of the Iraq monstrosity simply supports the point Wilkinson is trying to make---that proponents of "national greatness" indulge in fantasy to the detrmiment of the national interest.

From where I'm sitting an argument the government plays a role in promoting goodness and virtue among the populace is possible, but in this race it would be in support of Barack Obama rather than John McCain.

I definitely think of TR as the embodiment of the virtue and national greatness motif-- complete with the taxidermy and cigars. And John McCain, the maverick, reminds us of TR to no small extent. But I agree-- it's not healthy for our leaders to go in search of perpetual wars.

I think one could look at what's going on with McCain differently, though-- maybe he is using honor (never surrender) as the main way to appeal to constituents but I don't get the impression that HE thinks we should constantly pursue war as an end in itself.

Rather, he sees that our practice of continuing to go in and then pulling right back out of the Middle East is dangerous and foolhardy. We will continue being dragged back in for as long as we continue to be dependent on oil. He is calmly facing the twin realities that no one else will publicly accept, that 1. we are and will remain dependent on oil for at least the next century, and 2. that means we continue to require a presence in the Middle East until the region is stable. And instead of denying these realities, McCain's offering the only sensible strategy for eventually stabilizing that region, and the only course that will prevent our boys from dying in vain over there every decade.

For him, war isn't about virtue, honor, being great-souled-- it is about accepting facts and dealing with them. And that's what experienced political leadership requires, too. Romney has never been able to transform himself from corporate CEO to political deal-maker, and the Democrats are putting their heads in the sand if they honestly think a time table for withdrawal will do anything other than prolong the agony of this world crisis.

He is calmly facing the twin realities that no one else will publicly accept, that 1. we are and will remain dependent on oil for at least the next century, and 2. that means we continue to require a presence in the Middle East until the region is stable.

That overlooks the facts that (1) McCain is saying no such thing; he's talking about "surrender"; and (2) that there is no rational reason to believe that the US presence is contributing to a more stable Middle East.

the only course that will prevent our boys from dying in vain over there every decade.

... is by keeping them dying at a slow, steady rate all along.

Well, that's one way to look at Virtue, I guess.

If you read the Storey piece as being about Iraq, as Wilkinson does, then Wilkinson certainly has the better of the argument. (Maybe it is about Iraq if you know these authors and the context in which they are writing. I don't.)

My question for Wilkinson, however -- or for any other libertarian out there -- is this: History teaches that even if you don't go out looking for a war, you have to consider the possibility that a war is going to come looking for you. If your society is made up of autonomous individuals for whom hedonic satisfaction is the only good, who is going to go out and stand in the way of the tanks when they roll across your border?

All actual societies, none of which resemble the libertarian utopia as far as I know, have honored the person who shows willingness to risk "the ultimate sacrifice" for the good of others. As C.S. Lewis says (somewhere in Screwtape I believe), in times of danger the value of courage becomes too obvious to discuss.

John McCain (whom I do not want to be president any more than any of the other Republican candidates) proved he has that virtue, albeit in no better a cause than Iraq. Our society respects him for it. I don't think Ayn Rand, if reincarnated, could talk society out of it.

MD writes: "He is calmly facing the twin realities that no one else will publicly accept, that 1. we are and will remain dependent on oil for at least the next century, and 2. that means we continue to require a presence in the Middle East until the region is stable. And instead of denying these realities, McCain's offering the only sensible strategy for eventually stabilizing that region, and the only course that will prevent our boys from dying in vain over there every decade."

Is it really possible that at this point there are still significant numbers of people stupid or evil enough to think that out invasion of Iraq was necessary and just and is contributing to STABILITY in the region?

Hot damn, Batman, we sure got us some mega-retards in the woodpile!

Wilkinson will doubtless soon be berating us for not listening to enough Schoenberg.

This has nothing to do with anything, but I must take exception. Schoenberg is the musical opposite of Will Wilkinson and liberal individualism in general.

Overheard at CATO:

Mr. Wilkinson muttering in the hallway,

"DAMMIT, YOU CONSERVATIVES, ORNAMENT IS CRIME!"

Brendan, this could be fun. If Schoenberg's atonal style is the musical opposite of "Will Wilkinson and liberal individualism in general," what would be analogous? Frankly, I think 20th C. atonal, serial, etc. music is the perfect way to describe something that purports itself to being "spare, elegant, functional — but hard to grasp or truly appreciate without a cultivated sense of style, without a little discerning maturity." In other words, something that attempts to be impressive in theory, but in practice is shit (yea, I don't really like modern classical music: it's all been downhill after Mahler, with a few notable exceptions).

MLJ: Is it really possible that at this point there are still significant numbers of people stupid or evil enough to think that out invasion of Iraq was necessary and just and is contributing to STABILITY in the region?

One such would be Fouad Ajami, an Arab who teaches at Johns Hopkins, who wrote
Bush of Arabia This U.S. president is the most consequential the Middle East has ever seen.

He concludes the piece as follows:

We scoffed, in polite, jaded company when George W. Bush spoke of the "axis of evil" several years back. The people he now journeys amidst [on a recent Middle East trip] didn't: It is precisely through those categories of good and evil that they describe their world, and their condition. Mr. Bush could not redeem the modern culture of the Arabs, and of Islam, but he held the line when it truly mattered. He gave them a chance to reclaim their world from zealots and enemies of order who would have otherwise run away with it.

While serious mistakes were made in dealing with the insurgency, this war is presently going well and with persistence could be won, unless, of course, the Democrats find a way to effect a precipitous withdrawal.


Ross,
Well-said. But I sympathize with Will’s exasperation. I found the Weekly Standard piece grandiose and pernicious, full of straw men and question-begging, notwithstanding its lyrical turns of phrase.

Re: the leavittry at 4:16 -

"In an August 2002 speech before the Veterans of Foreign Wars, US Vice President Dick Cheney sought to assuage concerns about the anticipated US invasion of Iraq, stating: "As for the reaction of the Arab 'street,' the Middle East expert Professor Fouad Ajami predicts that after liberation, the streets in Basra and Baghdad are 'sure to erupt in joy in the same way the throngs in Kabul greeted the Americans.'""

Ajami spent years kneeling in front of Paul Wolfowitz - he's just another neocon war whore, a charter member of the "they'll shower us with flowers" gang. It's no surprise that Peter Leavitt picks a piece of shit like Ajami as his spokesman.

Next he'll be treating us to wisdom from Ahmad Chalabi.

Regrettably, Will doesn't seem to even try to articulate his point in a way that might rein in the pretentiousness. But he does have a decent point.

A lot of people who are taken with figures like McCain or Obama - people like Andrew Sullivan, for instance - seem to look at politics in an aesthetic and almost religious way; they seek spiritual uplift more than they do a more just society.

This election cycle, a lot of people seem to want to elect a head of state they can love. It's innocent enough, but it's disturbing nonetheless. It's not good for a people to love their elected officials. Ideally, the president would be neither loved nor hated but instead regarded with the relative indifference appropriate for a servant, a hired hand charged with specific tasks.

But we want someone who will make us feel good about ourselves. This is a sickness.

roac: which border, exactly, are the tanks likely to roll over?

Jason C writes: "Ideally, the president would be neither loved nor hated but instead regarded with the relative indifference appropriate for a servant, a hired hand charged with specific tasks.

But we want someone who will make us feel good about ourselves. This is a sickness. "

Exactly right. And the way so many right-wingers go ga-ga over the trappings of the Imperial Presidencies most of the recent Republican presidents have set up is pathetic. (I can't wait for one to deny that this happens.)

This sort of hero worship was applied - however briefly - to Rudy Giuliani, when almost every indicator showed him to be a despicable wretch of a man. Symbolism of that sort really can be unhealthy.

Re: Ideally, the president would be neither loved nor hated but instead regarded with the relative indifference appropriate for a servant, a hired hand charged with specific tasks.

This is the essential conceit of Western post-enlightenment liberalism, one shared by liberals and conservatives alike. It's one that I loathe and find completely uninspiring. I'm sure you are aware that there is an older viewpoint, traditionally more popular in the Latin countries, as to the role of a leader, which is that a leader should evoke love and personal loyalty from his subjects, as a father should (ideally) from his children. Of course it's possible to have a _bad_ leader, just as it's possible to have an abusive or neglectful father, in which case he should be removed. But properly speaking, a leader ought to serve as either a subject of love or of hate, never of indifference.

Max Weber once predicted that liberal democracy could not last because the bureaucratic-legalist conception of the leader was one without the capacity to inspire men. What is most unnerving about people like you is that you actually seem to _like_ the idea of the leader as a 'hired hand' and you don't even _care_ that you no longer are ruled by leaders who you can love and swear oaths of loyalty to.

Some of us find the Constitution to be more inspiring than some hoped-for inspirational "leader," Hector. Don't forget that those inspirations can lead you down some pretty heinous paths.

On Max Weber: "Weber became a consultant to the German Armistice Commission at the Treaty of Versailles and to the commission charged with drafting the Weimar Constitution.[10] He argued in favour of inserting Article 48 into the Weimar Constitution.[17] This article was later used by Adolf Hitler to institute rule by decree, thereby allowing his government to suppress opposition and obtain dictatorial powers. Weber's contributions to German politics remain a controversial subject to this day."

Spiffy work, Max.

I wrote about this before this post but I do love the title.

http://p4500.blogspot.com/2008/01/there-are-no-libertarians-in-foxholes.html

I seem to have the exact taste in rooms as the author here, down to opposing garish rugs.

What amazes me is that Ross or anyone else can think that today's America is too likely to think that virtue in war argues for what it takes to govern this nation. The fact is, I find it hard not to vote for a guy who was literally tortured and figuratively spit in the communists eye while they did so. That is because I think we are in a war and we need that grit now, despite McCain's leftish tendencies. I do not give a damn about a man's temper. I admire GWB more than the author of this blog, but I think if he'd exploded at some underlings more often the country would be better for it. Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman were hot heads. They were also three guys I'm comfortable with leading a nation at war.


Ooo, Derrick's comment gives me an excuse for me to indulge my fondness for classical music:

In other words, something that attempts to be impressive in theory, but in practice is shit (yea, I don't really like modern classical music: it's all been downhill after Mahler, with a few notable exceptions).

Grrr. I hope your list of "notable exceptions" includes at the very least Dmitri Shostakovich, Bela Bartok, Alban Berg, Benjamin Britten, Paul Hindemith, Olivier Messiaen, Astor Piazzolla, Philip Glass (Violin Concerto only), John Adams, Malcolm Arnold, Aaron Copland, Leos Janacek, and Stravinsky.

And maybe you're not big on Schoenberg, but have you listened to Verklarte Nacht? It's fun for the whole family, even those who hate Schoenberg's serialism.

jjv has a rich fantasy life: "The fact is, I find it hard not to vote for a guy who was literally tortured and figuratively spit in the communists eye while they did so. That is because I think we are in a war and we need that grit now, despite McCain's leftish tendencies. I do not give a damn about a man's temper. I admire GWB more than the author of this blog, but I think if he'd exploded at some underlings more often the country would be better for it."

I can't even begin to imagine Dumbya "exploding" at the scumbag he "chose" as Vice President. And since he surrounded himself with incompetent morons and yes-men (and yes-women) from Day One, I'd say that makes him the idiot the buck stops with.

As for McCain, you should worry about whether he has the intellect for the job and who he would surround himself with - his long ago balls don't really mean much now, especially since the "War On Terra" is mostly a mirage.

Will Wilkinson is a grown-up?

I always assumed he was a very bright college sophomore...

Immoralist writes: "Grrr. I hope your list of "notable exceptions" includes at the very least Dmitri Shostakovich, Bela Bartok, Alban Berg, Benjamin Britten, Paul Hindemith, Olivier Messiaen, Astor Piazzolla, Philip Glass (Violin Concerto only), John Adams, Malcolm Arnold, Aaron Copland, Leos Janacek, and Stravinsky.

And maybe you're not big on Schoenberg, but have you listened to Verklarte Nacht? It's fun for the whole family, even those who hate Schoenberg's serialism."

Yes, Schoenberg's Verklarte Nacht is not bad (of course, it was written before his silly serialism). Hmm, yes, I would certainly include Shostakovich, Bartok, Hindemith, Messiaen, Copland, Stravinsky on my list and add Ligeti, Part, Gorecki. Really the only people on your list who I think are overrated is Glass and Adams (but I even listen to their music). In fact, I do like a lot of 20th C. classical, I just don't think it reaches the heights of Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, or even Wagner. Anywho, I was just hoping someone would give a good musical comparison to libertarian individualism if they didn't like the comparison to Schoenberg. Cheers.

Moe,

I was aware of that, thank you. Weber would have no doubt seen Hitler as confirmation of his theory that people at some level _need_ charismatic messianic leaders, and if they are not given the opportunity to follow _good_ charismatic leaders than they will perforce choose to follow _evil_ ones. (I am not a follower of Weber, by the way, I merely quoted him to show that one of the chief theoreticians of modern liberal-capitalist society recognized that that civilization was missing something vital at its core.)

The antidote to child abuse is true familial love. The antidote to pornography is true romantic love. The antidote to idolatry and Shariah madness is true religion. And the antidote to the Hitlers and Stalins of the world is true charismatic leaders who can rule over the people and inspire them to good causes, not evil ones. Not the lifeless and bloodless politicians of liberal-capitalist society. _Good_ charismatic leaders, in many of the world's societies, are the only alternative to _evil_ ones. It took a Nasser to prevent his country from falling into the hands of the Islamists, just as it took a General Velasco to keep his country out of the hands of the Maoists.

I have no illusion that America wants, nor needs, a General Velasco, but there are other societies which can and do, and we should not be trying to force our own lifeless and uninspiring politics on those countries which choose to have paternal leaders who they can love.

roac: which border, exactly, are the tanks likely to roll over?

This thread has presumably died while I was away, but I'll respond anyway: Not any border of the United States, not any time in the foreseeable future. My comment wasn't about our immediate situation, it was expressing the general view that libertarianism breaks down utterly as a philosophy of government when it comes to the defense of a nation against an existential threat.

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