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The Two Faces of Neoconservatism

26 Feb 2008 11:14 am

Reihan has a pair of interesting posts on this Peter Berkowitz op-ed, which argues that in their headlong rush to champion the invasion of Iraq many neocons weren’t being true to neoconservatism’s skeptical view of government action and human nature, and this Mark Lilla review of Jacob Heilbrunn’s They Knew They Were Right, which argues that the Iraq War was the fulfillment of neoconservatism’s tendency toward a politics defined by manichaeism, chest-thumping and hysteria.

Who’s right? Why, both of them. From its inception, neoconservatism has been distinguished by both pragmatic and apocalyptic strains, which have coexisted not only in the same movement but often in the same people. There are a host of factors driving this “two-faced” tendency, but I think Lilla’s point about neoconservatism being essentially a politics of reaction is a useful place to start. I don't mean to use the term “reaction” pejoratively here, and I think Lilla goes too far arguing that a politics of reaction must perforce lead to either nostalgic quietism on the one hand or "eschatological dreams of a counter-revolution" on the other; to my mind, calling the neocons reactionaries is just a simple way of describing the fact that neoconservatism began by defining itself primarily by what it wasn’t - namely, the late-60s and ‘70s Left. That Left tended toward utopianism in domestic policy and permissiveness in the social and cultural arenas; thus neocons were skeptical and empirically-minded on domestic policy (Lilla notes the modest founding motto of the old Public Interest - "to help us all, when we discuss issues of public policy, to know a little better what we are talking about") and more moralistic, pessimistic and declinist than the left on matters cultural. On foreign policy, things were more complicated, since neocons perceived the '70s liberalism to be simultaneously too utopian in its confidence in a foreign policy founded on the promotion of human rights and peaceful cooperation, and too ineffectual and weak-minded in its insistence on the limits of American power. Thus the neocon reaction tended toward hardheaded realism on the one hand, epitomized by Jeane Kirkpatrick's famous "Dictatorships and Double Standards," which Berkowitz's op-ed references, and a sweeping faith in American power on the other, epitomized by ... well, a host of recent examples spring to mind.

As that host suggests, over time the messianic and apocalyptic strands in neoconservatism have tended to crowd out the pragmatic and the realist strands - because the Cold War ended and American power seemed temporarily unlimited; because the neocon domestic policy agenda made more headway than the cultural agenda; because, as Steve Sailer notes, the earlier generation of neocons were more likely to be social scientists and the later generation has been more likely to be pundits; and a variety of other reasons besides. But like Reihan and Berkowitz, I'm hopeful that the chastening impact of the Iraq War and the changing of the generational guard provides an opening the revive the pragmatic, empirical meliorist style of neoconservative politics - a style that I would associate myself with, and that seems increasingly like the only plausible alternative to a resurgent and ambitious liberalism.

Comments (15)

You're in luck-- there's a presidential candidate with a pragmatic, empirical style.

When you write that you're afraid of a "resurgent and ambitious liberalism," after having written a book advocating Democratic-style policies, you sound a bit like someone who's chosen sides in politics the way that some people do with sports teams. Obviously I am exaggerating a bit here, but which policies are you afraid of, and why? I'm fairly certain that Dwight Eisenhower would be a Democrat if he were alive today.

You're certainly entitled to be hopeful that neoconservatism will climb down from the messianic club that it has become, but I see no reason to believe that it will happen. Not from the writings or utterances of any prominent neoconservatives, at least (save Fukuyama, who, as Reihan points out, risks excommunication).

Reihan has a pair of interesting posts on this Peter Berkowitz op-ed, which argues that in their headlong rush to champion the invasion of Iraq many neocons weren’t being true to neoconservatism’s skeptical view of government action and human nature,

Which amounts to "No true Neocon," I guess. I'd love it if someone would square the circle and explain National Greatness in terms of skepticism about government action and centralized readings of the human character.

"I'm fairly certain that Dwight Eisenhower would be a Democrat if he were alive today"

I'm fairly certain that JFK would have been a republican if he were alive today. Where does that leave us?

Here are some of the policies that I fear from a "resurgent and ambitious liberalism":

- socialized health care.
- high tax rates.
- economically devastating regulations pursuant to "global warming" theories.
- Increasing various idenitity grievance groups and causes of action in various discrimination laws.
- greater mandates on employers for paid time off, and other benefits (i.e., mandating longer paid vacations, paid FMLA, paid child-care, etc).
- socializing / controlling prescription medication costs - thus destroying an research and development into new medications.
- increased federal spending (although, in all fairness, the GOP has been truly awful here as well),
- increased entitlement programs.
- failure to reform social security,
- open borders / amnesty for illegals (again, some republicans are just as bad),

While foreign policy national security is currently seen by many as a liberal / conservative (neoconservative) divide, I think that is overstated and will recede back to where it was in the past over time. Although both Obama and Hillary are pandering to the far left on these issues currently, if either becomes president I expect both to pretty much continue most of the same policies as the current administration.

Everyone sounds like they've read more than I on this topic.

Still I dont know how you talk about neo-cons without a nod, at least, to Goldwater, who popularized it. His book was published in 1960, I believe, so the reactionary slant might be exagerated.

I'll be interested in the convention this year as they try to keep a grip on the Republican party. I think its pretty much a free-for-all.

One alternative to liberalism is centrism, better be prepared to explain why pragmatic conservatism is better than both liberalism and centrism; its not a slam dunk.

GB, what do you mean by "socializing" health care? Is it the Clinton plan, essentially the same as the plan Romney advocated in Massachusetts? Is George Romney a socialist? Arnold Schwarznegger has pushed for a similar plan in California. Is Schwarznegger a socialist? And what do you mean by "global warming" theories? Can you name any reputable atmospheric scientist, other than the deeply contrarian Dick Lindzen, who doesn't believe that global warming exists and is anthropogenic? Does controlling prescription medication costs really "destroy" research and development? Do you really think Obama and Hillary pander to the "far left"? Do you know anybody in this category?
Is Matt Yglesias, for example, a leftist of the type you deplore?
Is there any American politician you like? I'm really curious to learn how you think.

hardheaded realism on the one hand, epitomized by Jeane Kirkpatrick's famous "Dictatorships and Double Standards,"

Only if "hardheaded realism" mean "facile rationalization", and neocons have an inexhaustible supply of that.

Stan: GB is on to something. If the Democrats win, we are in for a fresh bout of building "socialism in one country" -- ours. Eisenhower could be a Democrat and Kennedy a Republican, which is the whole point. The US elite is thoroughly caught up in the warfare/welfare state and will be as long as Peking is willing to lend it the money to pay for it. That's all there is to it. McCain is bustin' to get in Moscow's face and Obama is being advised by the inveterate Russophobe Brzezinski. Will we never be free of these lunatics? Let me answer the question you put to GB. No, there is no a single American politician worth anything, although Ron Paul is to be given credit for standing for the (dead and buried) Old Republic.

Good news, Banana-- you're afraid of bogeymen who don't exist in real life.

Just to address your top two:

- socialized health care.

No one's proposing this!


- high tax rates.

No one's proposing a return to the pre-Reagan tax levels! Just to the pre-Bush levels. You may recall that, despite/due to tax rates that were a few percentage points higher than now, the economy actually did pretty well in the 1990s.

So, you can vote Democratic without reservations.

"changing of the generational guard" --

Yeah, things will be different when Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and Lucianne Goldberg leave the scene.

This is hardly a novel observation, but it's worth repeating. The neoconservatives' drift away from their pragmatic roots can be ascribed to one thing: power. The "founders" of the neoconservative moment were basically voices in the wilderness in the 60s and early 70s, with minimal intellectual following and an even smaller political footprint.

The Reagan Revolution, the 1994 GOP victory, and Bush II's win in 2000 all propelled some of the leading neoconservatives into positions of real authority. Lord Acton's adage that "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" is a truism at best, but, in the case of the neoconservatives, it seems particularly apt.

Once neoconservatives actually had a hand in shaping foreign policy and directing military action, they gradually succumbed to the illusion of their own invincibility. They misidentified the "sole superpower" notion and Fukuyama's "end of history" argument as some sort of historical mandate to rework the world. Thrown in some old-fashioned nationalism, the desire to outdo the liberals in idealism, vengeful anger at 9-11, and you have yourself the contemporary neocon of the Bill Kristol persuasion.

Also, don't forget that it's a matter of pride. Having invested so much in the invasion of Iraq, a lot of neocons just can't bring themselves to think critically about it, even if they privately harbor some misgivings about the whole enterprise. It usually takes some sort of brazen error to change one's mind about this. I know it took the non-discovery of WMDs to turn me away from the standard neocon line, but I realize it would take more for other true believers. The divisiveness of the Iraq issue is exactly what keeps neocons steadfast in their opinions. It's turned the whole matter into an article of faith. No wonder Fukuyama is effectively considered a heretic in the neoconservative fold.

Please,

Both Obama's plan and Hillary's plan will lead directly and shortly to socialized health care. To claim otherwise is absurd. If you mandate that I must buy insurance, and then mandate how much the insurer can charge me for that insurance - it is socialism. You have tried to hide the socialism, but it is there all the same. Moreover, the gov't will quickly take over more and more of the health care industry once either plan is passed.

as to your other questions, I could list many respected scientists who don't believe that man causes global warming or that global warming is even remotely the crisis that it is potrayed to be by activists.

Indeed, not a single study has been put forward that actually scientifically demonstrates your theory of global warming (i.e., that it is man made or that it is a crisis).

But, rather than me point such people out to you - how about you point me to one scientific (by which I mean not based entirely on questionable computer models) study that purports to scientifically demonstrate the truth of this theory? One that is not just conclusory. I have heard a lot about some "consensus", but nothing about any actual science. Every such "study" that has been put forth has been clearly and easily discredited as lacking any scientific rigor. Most scientists are actually coming around to the idea that it is cyclical sun activity that is causing the minor warming.

I know you believe it is proven, undisputed, and settled science (much like you probably believed these same scientists 20 years ago when they claimed the next ice age was upon us) but that just shows the ideological blinders over your rationality.

As to whether government controlled prices will destroy medicine r & d - I suggest you take an intro to economics course at your local community college. Once you have done that, you may understand a little bit about how such things actually work.

Romney's MA plan is atrocious and is socialism lite and I never supported it nor did I support Romney for president.

I was against Schwartzenagger in the CA recall b/c I knew he would cave in and become a full blown democrat - which he has. So, yes, I believe his plan is basically socialist.

If you don't believe Hillary and/or Obama have pandered to the far left - you are so far to the left as to believe that the ACLU, the Trial Lawyers, or the various Unions are the center.

I don't love McCaine, but he is absolutely a far, far better choice (i.e., would do much less damage) than either Hillary or Obama -and in politics we often have to take the lesser evil rather than get everything we want.

As to high tax rates - they are indeed proposing high tax rates. They, of course, claim that it is only going to be on the "rich", but they define rich as everyone making more than $70k / year. Plus, if you listen to the billions in spending that is proposed, how else could they possibly do it but tax increases? But, just to make it simple, I'm against any tax increases at all, on anyone. We are overtaxed as it is. the gov't gets enought money. So, I'm against both democrats b/c both have clearly promised to raise taxes.

You may recall that, despite/due to tax rates that were a few percentage points higher than now, the economy actually did pretty well in the 1990s.

Yes, thank god for Reagan's economic boom that lasted throughout the 90s. And thankfully, it was able to be continued due to Bush II's tax cuts.

Clinton I ended up governing as a centrist (mostly due to the republican controlled congress), so he did not destroy the economy. I don't have faith that either Hillary or Obama would be the same, as they are both running much, much farther to the left than Clinton I ever did, and are likely to have a dem congress.

Dear Great Banana,

I spent 40 years as a tenured professor in an atmospheric science program at a good research university. The IPCC report and my own scientific background provide the basis for my views on global warming. The comments you've made on this subject tell me that you're paying way too much attention to the Wall Street Journal editorial page. I prefer the Journal of Atmospheric Science. When Lindzen criticizes the way clouds are treated in general circulation models, I listen. He's a contrarian, but he knows what he's talking about. You don't.

As regards taxes, my accountant informs me that the Bush tax cuts on dividends and capital gains save our family $8000 per year. Nevertheless, I think they're absurd from an economic point of view. I simply don't think a democracy can stand the kind of inequality we see now.

Finally, with an administration like Bush's, do you really think the ACLU is harmful? If you do, I question your devotion to the rule of law.

Great Banana just seems to be playing conservative mad libs. Just throw around global warming skepticism and socialism around a bunch of times and think it makes a coherent thought.

After having experienced two national health care systems (over 14 years under Japanese and U.K. systems) and the last 6 years under the US health care system--I know which one I'll go for: a national health care system.

Several very basic reasons: 1) the amount of paperwork and final costs. 2) the high risk under the US system of having one's insurance cancelled inopportunely. 3) the high risk of having to actually get a lawyer and a court case to get a supposedly contracted-for payment out of an insurance agency. 4) how research into the genetic basis of diseases and application of such tracking is discouraged because people are scared of discrimination.

Make the pool as big as possible and get rid of the paperwork--instant savings.