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Rage of a Privileged Class

05 Mar 2008 11:47 am

As regular readers know, I think populist appeals have their place in politics, but Rod Dreher nails what's so grating about Michelle Obama's shtick: It's shot through with self-pity. First, he quotes Byron York, following her through Ohio:

“I know we’re spending — I added it up for the first time — we spend between the two kids, on extracurriculars outside the classroom, we’re spending about $10,000 a year on piano and dance and sports supplements and so on and so forth,” Mrs. Obama tells the women. “And summer programs. That’s the other huge cost. Barack is saying, ‘Whyyyyyy are we spending that?’ And I’m saying, ‘Do you know what summer camp costs?’”

There's a lot more lines like this one in the York piece - all fair enough, so far as they go (it is stressful and expensive to be a Bobo parent), but perhaps not just the thing to say to women in a depressed blue-collar town. And then there's this line, from this week's New Yorker profile:

From these bleak generalities, Obama moves into specific complaints. Used to be, she will say, that you could count on a decent education in the neighborhood. But now there are all these charter schools and magnet schools that you have to “finagle” to get into. (Obama herself attended a magnet school, but never mind.) Health care is out of reach (“Let me tell you, don’t get sick in America”), pensions are disappearing, college is too expensive, and even if you can figure out a way to go to college you won’t be able to recoup the cost of the degree in many of the professions for which you needed it in the first place. “You’re looking at a young couple that’s just a few years out of debt,” Obama said. “See, because, we went to those good schools, and we didn’t have trust funds. I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that Dick Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!”

There are many sorts of populism, from the optimistic (think Reagan, or LBJ) to the angry and doom-ridden (think John Edwards). But a self-pitying populism, in which a Princeton-educated, upper-middle-class woman - or a wealthy woman, really; Michelle Obama earned roughly $400,000 in 2005 - equates her own struggles to pay off her college loans with the woes of the working class seems like a remarkably unappealing variation on the theme. (Like Rod, I didn't much care for Edwards' Kingfish act, but at least he went out of his way to acknowledge both his humble beginnings and how lucky he is now.) Not that the upper-middle class doesn't have its struggles too; God knows I whine to my friends about how how hard I work from time to time. But it's mildly inappropriate to whinge about those struggles publicly, and extremely inappropriate to whine about them in the context of a political campaign. It's like having Judith Warner campaigning to be First Lady.

Comments (57)

There really is something narcissistic about her complaints. I mean, who feels sorry for people who went to Ivy League schools? It's especially puzzling given that I'm sure they'd have no problem finding and developing stories from people who really do struggle with college or health care costs. "Let me tell you about John, a firefighter in Chicago who..." But maybe the campaign has gotten so wrapped around its own Obama-as-hero press clippings, it can't let go of the autobiography.

You're welcome to come up with whatever rationalization you need to vote for the party you decided you would root for when you were a kid-- and I'll do the same-- but complaining about a candidate's spouse's clumsy efforts at populism is quite a reach.

Er, Elvis, I don't think Ross will be voting (as I'm guessing) against Obama because of this. But it DOES sound whiny. Look, I have a PhD from a top school, and teach at a top school. I consider myself pretty well off, despite continual grumbles about housing prices (even now) in my part of the conutry. Yet, I think, objectively speaking, the Obamas are much better off than I am. I mean, if Michelle and Barack are having a rough go of it, perhaps the rest of us should just lay down and die in the ditch.

The New Yorker's profile includes this gem: "I’m still waiting for Barack’s trust fund. Especially after I heard that Dick Cheney was s’posed to be a relative or something. Give us something here!"

What irony! Love him or hate him, you can't deny that Dick Cheney started from truly lowly beginnings and worked hard to get where he is -- line man, non-elite college student, Capitol Hill resume-hander, up through the Nixon/Ford Administrations, a hard-earned House seat, a lot of work in the House, then Defense Secretary and Halliburton. Only in that final step did he make any money.

Cheney isn't without his warts (what an understatement), but he's living the American dream. Good for him.

This is exactly right, but I suspect it's more about Michelle Obama becoming a more experienced speaker with a sharper message than it is about her actually feeling this way. My bet is that her goal is to make herself sound like a regular person, connect with the audience. Soon, she'll begin inserting lines like, "And if it's hard for me and Barack, given the amazing blessings we've been given in life, then how much harder is it for single mothers, etc.?"

Here's a really fair characterization:

"a Princeton-educated, upper-middle-class woman - or a wealthy woman, really; Michelle Obama earned roughly $400,000 in 2005 - equates her own struggles to pay off her college loans with the woes of the working class seems like a remarkably unappealing variation on the theme."

Right - I think that's exactly what she's saying.

I think the more general issue here is that (for whatever reason) the legitimacy of one's populism seems to turn on your economic well-being. Being rich and arguing for populist reforms is hypocrisy! I, for one, hope that this unique form of reasoning doesn't make its way into other issues, like healthcare.
(It's ironic that many of those prone to trash identity politics are often given to this criticism as well.)

Isn't this just a classic ad hominem to distract from the central issue? Whatever Michelle Obama's particular relationship to the hardships she describes, these hardships for most people are either real or not. Complaining about her whininess, or whatever, says nothing about the actual existence of these problems or their appropriate solutions.

One of the annoying things about blog debate is that people think hypocrisy is a disqualifying failing, when in fact hypocrisy in and of itself doesn't actually prove anything at all.

Well, Freddie, that's part of the grand strategy, and one of the key tactics.

The grand GOP strategy is to make elections about (a caricature of) character, not about policies, because most GOP policies are unpopular relative to Democratic ones.

One way that strategy is implemented is, given that anyone who runs for higher office has to be rich, those who express concern about poverty or the working class is attacked as a hypocrite, and therefore unfit to win an election. So even getting to discuss of those issues is a battle.

We know what sort of creatures Ross wants to see as "First Ladies" - and damn, do I hate that stupid term. He wants disengaged Stepford Wives like Laura, or vicious old goats who write dog biographies and don't want to trouble their beautiful minds with thoughts of war like Barbara, or deranged astrology-pushing harpies with 18-inch waists like Nancy. Cindy McCain is right up his alley, Botox-riddled face and all.

You genuinely have to go out of your way to find out what Michelle Obama is saying, and of course Ross does so because he's part of the GOP machine, but isn't this crap boring as hell?

Moe,

From a political standpoint, I think this bit is rather boring -- it's not going to have much impact on the race, and other than Barack Obama's occasional slightly silly whining about their loans, it's not a major component of the campaign.

Sociologically, it's interesting: some of us (conservative and liberal) spend more time than we'd like listening to people who have it pretty well whining about their lot in life. This isn't really connected to what policies they prefer, though obviously you hear it more in political life from those on the "progressive" side (since "waah waah" talk doesn't connect well to more Wall Street happy-talk policies for the most part). It's galling, though. Look, I feel ashamed, on occasion, when I grumble/whine about how I largely keep my political/moral/religious views to myself in my professional friendships, because it doesn't really pay, even in the hard sciences, to be known as a Reactionary Radical Conservative. But it's not like I'm slaving in the tar pits, or lookin' for work in Sandusky. The same whining about student loans from progressives who are making, objectively, a stellar salary, is equally a bit... unbecoming.

Freddie, the Obamas' personal biographies are inspiring, but they don't offer good evidence that something is wrong with America that needs to be fixed. I do think they would be well advised to take the Edwards route and adopt a few other people's biographies.

Both Barack and Michelle grew up poor, but, thankfully, they both got access to great schools (a scholarship to a private school for him; a magnet school for her), went to great colleges (Columbia and Princeton), got tony summer clerkships and jobs, and then managed to find public sector work that pays in the six figures.

The lesson Michelle got from this doesn't seem to be that she was fortunate and owes something to people who didn't get her talent or her lucky breaks, it's that she and Barack weren't given *enough*.

In Michelle Obama's world, everyone in the whole country will be admitted to Princeton (because no one should be told that their scores aren't good enough), and they will all get to go there for free. (Because no one should have to pay back student loans). At that point, everyone will get jobs as diversity coordinators and state senators (Because no one should work in banking or law). Presto! The post-Barack utopia!

Tje most galling part of this is the complaint about student loans. When you sign yourself on for >200k of professional school loans, you do it with an adult brain for adult reasons. Deal.

Upper middle class people do spend a lot of time around the truly rich, and they are apt to compare their own situations to those of their friends and get a bit miffed. It's natural. I have a good job, but I see that my friends with trust funds get to do all sorts of things that I can't contemplate. It does get under my skin at times.

But really, it's important not to express this around people who are a lot worse off than that. People who have trouble affording expensive music lessons can't complain to people who scrimp and save for new winter coats. And people who do manage to get the new winter coats can't complain to the homeless people who end up with their old ones. It's just one of those things.

classic ad hominem

Ad hominum attacks are perfectly acceptable, even a requirement, in a political campaign. You elect a person, with all his or her foibles and human connections, not just a set of policies.

York's piece isn't flattering, and portrays Michelle Obama in mostly the same way Ross does. And I, personally, find her upper-middle class whining annoying. That said, whether she's annoying is irrelevant except to the extent that it inspires negative media coverage or alienates potential voters.

What's interesting is that it seems to be annoying some reporters and commentators, but not voters. The kicker to York's piece is an interview with a working class woman who says she appreciated a chance to chat with Michelle Obama, and feels that she and Michelle Obama can relate to each other.

I think her particular approach to talking about her life, her student loans, her job choices, etc., probably annoys people in her own social/political/economic class a lot more than it annoys working class people. People like Ross (and me) relate to her by associating her with people we know who are very well-off but always find something to complain about. And it inspires envy/resentment/annoyance because we're competing in the same world that she is, have less money/power, and yet have to hear a lot of kvetching about how hard it is to use the money from Barack's best-sellers to pay for piano lessons.

Whereas a normal person just hears someone talking about the various annoyances and difficulties that everyone faces to one degree or another. It's A LOT easier to raise kids if you have a high-paying job, but that doesn't mean a hair dresser can't relate to a lawyer who doesn't get to see her family as much as she'd like. The very fact that these folks don't aspire to be LIKE Michelle Obama means they're less likely to resent Michelle Obama.

Clearly it would be possible to cross a line and start annoying working class voters by complaining too much, but it's interesting that Michelle Obama has crossed that line with some of her peers but not (if the limited evidence of York's story is to be believed) working class women.

TMoC writes: "The same whining about student loans from progressives who are making, objectively, a stellar salary, is equally a bit... unbecoming."

That's if it's really whining, and not an honest attempt to let people know that you know where they're coming from. I haven't seen Michelle Obama talking about this stuff, so I don't know what her tone is or how she's explaining herself - and excuse me if I don't accept the characterizations of GOP hacks and Steve Sailer fans here. I don't find it impossible to believe that the Obamas aren't rich - but I really don't know or care all that much. I do know that lots of people making low 6 figures are pinched these days, given the enormous student loans some of them are carrying and the ridiculous cost of housing in some areas. I've seen plenty of GOP pols quit Congress while talking about the difficulties of maintaining two residences, blah blah blah. I haven't accused them of whining, because I know far too many people in that income bracket and I don't consider any of them rich.

Was Dumbya whining last year when he talked about making some money after he leaves the White House because he has to "replenish the coffers"? What Ross is doing here is just cheesy crapola politics - it sure isn't journalism. Maybe he can fill in on "The View" the next time that Hasselbeck bimbo gets the sniffles.

Umm...have any of you actually listened to Michelle Obama's entire 'stump' speech? I'm guessing not, based on the reading here which takes her comments entirely out of context, making them yes, sound a bit whiny(the racial subtext not being mentioned here, but which will be rolled out in force by Republican stooges- beware the ANGRY MILITANT BLACK WOMAN!). I have (Thanks to CSPAN), probably observed Michelle's entire speech at least 4 times...and based on the positive response of the crowd, it seems like something is really missing in the translation given here. Michelle's speeches are a perfect balance to Barack's ethereal and abstract qualities; she speaks in street-level prose; he speaks in poetry. Frankly, I'd like to see a lot more of Michelle; she blunts the 'fairly tale' criticism of Obama by telling his story in a personal, down-to-Earth way that makes it sound like she's not all starry-eyed when it comes to her husband. Her style can appeal to women...maybe not so much to men who will be wary of her Oprah-like 'girl-to-girl'chat. But for women like me she's the perfect foil for Hillary who seems completely lacking in a shred of authenticity. And she represents the realist and cynical side of Obama supporters: we're not naive but we are fed up with the same old crap. There's a lot of anger to go with that hope, like it or not. Sadly, Troy, people are conveniently cherry-picking the bits that make Michelle seem less likable:

Soon, she'll begin inserting lines like, "And if it's hard for me and Barack, given the amazing blessings we've been given in life, then how much harder is it for single mothers, etc.?"

She's already doing this...but what can you do if people choose to misrepresent her? That's ok though...let people think what they want.

Oh yeah...and speaking of whining, here's Evita Clinton herself: "It's hard to find time to have fun on the campaign trail". This is one thing I actually do admire about McCain...I don't think you can accuse him of being a whiner.

kristi writes: "And she represents the realist and cynical side of Obama supporters: we're not naive but we are fed up with the same old crap. There's a lot of anger to go with that hope, like it or not. Sadly, Troy, people are conveniently cherry-picking the bits that make Michelle seem less likable"

Of course they are. This is what they do. Cons have decided that the Big Lie they're going to tell about the Obamas is that he's a Muslim and she's Eldridge Cleaver in a dress. Ad they're going to hammer that Big Lie in over and over again in all of their usual ways. It might even work, if the voters are dominated by fear and stupidity like they were in 2004.

I guess rational human beings have to hope that the gross incompetence and the brain-curdling stupidity and evil of the Bushpig Era won't be rewarded with another Republican administration and 8 more years of war and economic rape and pillage.

Want some real whining? Listen to your average Repiglican millionaire if someone mentions raising taxes to pay for their idiotic war. You'll hear some world class whining then.

If Michelle Obama is whining, what exactly was Mitt Romney doing when he repeatedly explained how unfair it was that he and his family should ever have to pay a cent of tax on income from their hundreds of millions of dollars in investments? A little perspective is in order.

Ad hominum attacks are perfectly acceptable, even a requirement, in a political campaign. You elect a person, with all his or her foibles and human connections, not just a set of policies.

That's a very good point.

Actually Michelle Obama has a hard time getting past her background. Her Princeton thesis contains the following remarkable effusion:

My speculation for this finding is based on the possibility that a separationist[sic] is more likely to have a realistic impression of the plight of the Black lower class because of the likelihood that a separationist is more closely associated with the Black lower class than are integrationist [sic]. By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desparation [sic] of their [sic] situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to [sic] their plight.

Here she is breathlessly advocating for black separatists. We may forgive a sophomoric undergraduate thesis, though her basic view is confirmed by her recent remark that for the first time in her life she is proud of her country.

From what one understands of Obama it is no accident that Obama married this lady; they both at best have ambiguous views regarding the virtue of America, just as most hard leftists do.

Petey leavitts: "From what one understands of Obama it is no accident that Obama married this lady; they both at best have ambiguous views regarding the virtue of America, just as most hard leftists do."

Of course Petey is of the hard-right tradition, and he loves his country unambiguously - at least as long as a fascist is in power. When Petey heard that the Bush administration was making torture official US policy his heart nearly burst with pride. And he still fondly recalls his father's collection of lynching postcards.

Petey would deny that he's a moral relativist, but he has exactly the same moral world-view shown by Rudy Giuliani when he was asked if torture is wrong. Rudy said that it depends on who is doing it. That's Petey in a nutshell, and Petey's pride in his country has never been higher now that his country has stooped so low.

Ross,

You are from a party that in your own estimation talks a good game but does almost nothing for its middle-class constituents. Concentrate on the hypocrisy of that. Michelle Obama is in party that will actually fight for her audience. Nothing hypocritcal about that.

Moe,

Gee, here I thought the Democrats were supposed to be _less_ greedy than the Republicans. Silly me.

I don't care when fatcat Republican millionaires whine about their taxes being too high. I don't really respect such people or their opinions, and I don't expect anything better from them. I do expect that the standard bearer of what still calls itself the country's more progressive party, and the party of the poor and the working class, ought not to whine about living off of a half-million dollar a year salary. The Democratic party is supposed to be the party of the fishermen, coal miners, steel workers and migrant farm laborers, not the party of the suburban Ivy LEague educated lawyers.

Does it not bother you that the Democrats are becoming more similar to the Republicans every year? I don't want to have to choose between the party of the Northern, urban, secular elite and the Southern, suburban, evangelical elite.

Hector writes: "I don't care when fatcat Republican millionaires whine about their taxes being too high. I don't really respect such people or their opinions, and I don't expect anything better from them. I do expect that the standard bearer of what still calls itself the country's more progressive party, and the party of the poor and the working class, ought not to whine about living off of a half-million dollar a year salary. The Democratic party is supposed to be the party of the fishermen, coal miners, steel workers and migrant farm laborers, not the party of the suburban Ivy LEague educated lawyers."

I'm a suburban Ivy League educated lawyer, Hector, and I'll be voting Democratic for the foreseeable future.

As for Michelle Obama, I don't really see any "whining" in her comments. I do see something rather disgusting in both the Dreher column and Ross's use of it here.

It does bother me that there isn't more of a gulf between the two parties, but don't get so hung up on class and occupation. My father had to leave school when he was 13. I didn't. It doesn't mean I've forgotten where I came from. I haven't.

Here she is breathlessly advocating for black separatists. We may forgive a sophomoric undergraduate thesis, though her basic view is confirmed by her recent remark that for the first time in her life she is proud of her country.

Considering how well white people treated their "property" through the 17th, 18th and 19th century and how well they treated the descendants of their "property" in the 20th, I am actually amazed that so few African-Americans express separatist sentiment.

It wasn't until 1965 that African-Americans became full citizens with all the same legal rights than other citizens.

Great post, Matt. I saw Michelle Obama when she did a campaign stop in my town, and she came across as a very genuine, likeable, and decent person. Nevertheless, all the populist rhetoric about how "the American dream has been slipping away for us" seemed a bit strange coming from an upper-middle-class Chicagoan.

She's less polished and careful in her rhetoric than Obama, which can make her seem even more authentic, but it also has its downside. She can be too honest, too impolitic, for the campaign's own good. That's what led her to make the "first time in my life I've been proud of my country" comment. I personally don't mind if she's never been proud of her country until now; most African-Americans have a more complicated and less triumphalistic view of their own nation, for some pretty obvious reasons. Still, making the statement was politically hazardous given the fact that people have already questioned Barack's patriotism ( the flag pin / national anthem issues).

Moe,

Of course. I don't mean that suburban Ivy League educated lawyers are bad people nor that they shouldn't be welcome in the party. I'm Ivy League educated, and some of my best friends are lawyers. Nevertheless, I don't think that the Democratic party ought to be _the party of_ the urban Northeastern upper middle class. Upper middle class liberals should realize that they are unbelievably well off compared to most people in the world or for that matter the country, and should accept that any move towards a more just society is inevitably going to cause them more financial pain, not less.

Michelle Obama in that piece clearly has a self-pitying tone.

It doesn't mean I've forgotten where I came from. I haven't.

Don't be fooled by the Ivy-league degree that he's got, he's still Moe, Moe from the block.

Michelle Obama has a lot of emotional issues ("the racge of a privilege class") because she's been the beneficiary of racial quotas ever since she was 13, when she got into the best public school in Chicago, Whitney Young, due to an explicit 40% quota for blacks. But, all the nice things that affirmative action has done for her just make her feel more insecure and more angry.

At Whitney Young, she didn't distinguish herself in either grades or test scores, but, to the surprise of her teachers, and counselors, got into Princeton, where she felt extremely self-conscious over her lack of intellectual ability. Her senior thesis at Princeton is semi-literate, but she then got into Harvard Law School, where once again she felt like people were putting her down for not being too bright. She got a spiffy corporate law job at Sidley Austin, but didn't pass the bar exam the first time it was available. She finally passed, but then left the firm (presumably realizing she'd never make partner) for a much a lower paying job working as a fixer for the Daley Administration. She then enjoyed a vague but mildly lucrative career in the diversity racket, finally hitting the jackpot when her husband became a Senator. Two months later, she received a pay raise from the U. of Chicago Medical Center, where she works in community relations and diversity, from $122k to $317k.

Yet, despite all this largesse, the Obamas still had to get Tony Rezko involved in the purchase of their mansion in 2005.

For documentation, see:

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/080225_michelle_obama.htm

Hector writes: "Michelle Obama in that piece clearly has a self-pitying tone."

I suspect she doesn't have a self-pitying bone in her body. The author - a movement con who writes a lot of exceptionally stupid crap - clearly wants to convey the impression that she does, but he fails, just as his pals pushing the "she's filled with rage" crap do.

What is it with cons and their obsessive need to attack spouses, anyway? The last spouse of a Democratic nominee who I can't recall getting blasted was Joan Mondale. Maybe Dems should go on the offensive against Cindy McCain, a pill-popping thief and a homewrecker who has monthly Botox injections. Imagine the cons if they had someone like that to go after!

Right on cue, it's Steve Sailer, Ross's pet Klansman, here to lash the uppity Negro wench!

Sheesh. Steve Sailer probably has "The Turner Diaries" memorized.

Michelle Obama is important because she's more of a normal human being with a normal need to make herself clear and be understood. In contrast, her husband is a genius at masking his true feelings, at getting everybody to think he more or less agrees with them. Michelle gives us some insight into the inner Barack, which is a very useful thing to have when evaluating a potential President of the United States.

Duke Lite says: "Michelle Obama is important because she's more of a normal human being with a normal need to make herself clear and be understood. In contrast, her husband is a genius at masking his true feelings, at getting everybody to think he more or less agrees with them."

Translation: He's not just swarthy, he's sneaky, but he has a stupid wife! And his mother was white, so he was probably a communist when he was a kid!

It's a good thing we have highly-gifted mindreaders and defenders of the race like Steve Sailer to help keep us safe from these people!

Doesn't Moe think that someone making 400K a year complaining about how tough life is might be kind of a liability when running for president? I mean, if a white Republican (or Democrat) talked like that it'd be pretty prime Leno/Letterman material. Sure, things are different with Michelle. But that different?

GFK asks: "Doesn't Moe think that someone making 400K a year complaining about how tough life is might be kind of a liability when running for president?"

I don't see her complaining. I see her talking about the difficulty of being a good parent when your time is all stretched out, as hers certainly is now. I also see a lot of cons making a whole lot of noise about nothing, which is what they have to do in a year when cons simply have nothing good to say about the reigning con president and the utter mess they made of things when they had total control of the government.

Who wants another Bush term? That's what McCain is promising. It can't be justified on rational grounds, so the usual morons will be talking about "tone" and "rage" and other idiotic fantasies. At this point it's all the bastard children of Saint Reagan have left.

Sailer's post was interesting. It is worth noting she followed a 3-yr older brother who was highly intelligent AND an athletic superstar.

That usually breeds sibling resentments, but she was able to get some pretty good deals following in her brother's footsteps. Her grades were not outstanding, nor her SAT/ACT scores, according to the Chicago Tribune. But - She was an affirmative action "two-fer". Perhaps more importantly, that older Brother attended Princeton on a full athletic scholarship, where he was 2-time Ivy League Player of the Year, league high scorer, and took the Tigers to the NCAAs twice, where he tied a rebound record (16). He was a national scholar-athlete award winner. She applied and got in with a huge scholarship to the college where her unpaid athlete brother was a Campus God by his junior year when she applied - with people just aching to find a way to reciprocate for what Craig Robinson had done for the Tigers basketball program.

Bro had pull.
But bro didn't go to Harvard Law, so she had to pay out in loan replayments for a good chunk of that "terible burden". But Princeton prep, no dick, and the right skin - and she was in.

And Michelle is left to occasionally rage about "the white man's system" and America for her "ill-treatment despite" privilege of skin, gender, the alumni network, having her butt schmootched since elementary school, and ending up being in the top 1% of Americans in income.

Whatta a country! Whatta woman!

chris ford writes: "Bro had pull.
But bro didn't go to Harvard Law, so she had to pay out in loan replayments for a good chunk of that "terible burden". But Princeton prep, no dick, and the right skin - and she was in.

And Michelle is left to occasionally rage about "the white man's system" and America for her "ill-treatment despite" privilege of skin, gender, the alumni network, having her butt schmootched since elementary school, and ending up being in the top 1% of Americans in income.

Whatta a country! Whatta woman!"

Ross Douthat's blog remains the Atlantic's magnet for racists. Here the despicable chris ford, long an apologist for killing Any Available Muslim, weighs in with his "bro" nonsense. Douthat won't censor him. Douthat's too busy playing kissy-face with Steve Sailer and bashing old black women who have TVs that are larger than Nancy Reagan's torso.

You'll notice that the Sailers and fords never bitch about the undeniable fact that Dumbya Bush was also an affirmative action admission. The wingnuts never want to mention such things. When underqualified white guys get in Steve Sailer and chris ford squat and say, "Thank you, sir! May we have another!"

Since I actually went to one of the schools in question, I can say that the dopey children of the rich are not hard to find in the Ivy halls. Some of them suffer from self-doubt as a result, but they generally get over it. Idiots like Sailer and chris ford who never made the cut never get over it. They just blame it on the swarthy kids while they suck up to the legacies, forevermore.

I also knew minority students who felt they were regarded as second-rate - but they sure were brighter, on average, than the legacies and the hockey players.

No one dislikes affirmative action, or laments its pernicious effects on colleges and universities, more than I do. But I think it's a bit of low blow to raise it against Michelle Obama in the way some would.

I've gone to one of the schools she went to, and there are plenty of admit "mistakes" who don't measure up for a wide range of reasons just like there are busts in the first round of very NFL draft -- academic rockstars from obscure colleges, ivy league stars with inflated grades and resumes, etc. The fact of the matter is that at Harvard Law, only the top 3% or so matter and earn the attention of the faculty and all the other goodies. Half of the former superstars end up in the bottom half of their class, and the most of the middle tier are smart but not smart enough to be the stars they're accustomed to being. Some people grow up and get over it, but a lot don't and become embittered.

Another thing that makes people bitter is the disappointment. You're a rockstar, golden child and get all the glittering prizes of attention, ivy league degrees, your pick of high paying prestigious jobs. But where does it end? A job at Sidley. Wow! The golden prize is a boring, exhausting, unpleasant job. You make more money than you ever expected, but somehow you still feel a financial pinch. You succeed beyond your wildest dreams, but yet you seem to have more troubles and have a less fulfilling life than your parents.

Alas, the soft misery of elevated expectations ... Again, this is life folks and not necessarily the worst troubles to have. But I think it's these sorts of experiences that explain the the ivy-covered chip on Michelle Obama's, and many of her cohorts', shoulders.

That is a thoughtful, funny comment, gocubsgo.

You'll notice that the Sailers and fords never bitch about the undeniable fact that Dumbya Bush was also an affirmative action admission.

Hold on. I'm by no means Sailer's biggest fan all around, but he's been grumbling about Bush (and Kerry) being sort of dumb for years, and that you'd think in a country this size we could find SOMEONE smarter to be president. Has even, iirc, noted that Obama might, in office, be a clever technocrat, optimizing small but important details, which Bush couldn't do even with a cabinet of wonks, given his management style. Sailer's hardly a big Bush fan, and was (again, iirc) an early opponent of the Iraq war.

I'll agree with Elvis -- that's pretty insightful, gocubsgo. I've seen this with many of the folks I went through a top-3 grad school program in science with, and I can see that Harvard Law would be the same thing (though at least getting a science PhD you are pretty much guaranteed that even if suddenly you're in the bottom half after being top-1% all your life, your advisor will pay some kind of attention to you). I was fortunate to have already realized that while I have my talents, I'm at the slightly-above-the-median level when you get to the top. I think JB was also quite possibly dead-on: those of us "in" Michelle Obama's "peer group" find this more grating, because she's GRUMBLING, but she makes more money than I do and her husband is probably going to be the next President of the US. Cry me a bloody river, you know? But maybe if you're further down it does sound different.

She has two (from all I can tell) charming daughters, to boot, which is even better than making lots of money & living in the White House.

MoC and JB -- I find the differing reactions interesting too.

It may be that struggling blue collar workers, who were not blessed with Obama's troubles, take a sort of pleasure in hearing about them. Not a mean spirited pleasure, or an entirely mean spirited one. But the pleasure of knowing that even someone who has not suffered the same shortcomings and disappointments, even the much envied golden girl, has some of the same problems as they do. Maybe their problems are not entirely their own fault but the unavoidable facts of life. Obama, on the other hand, probably feels a cathartic pleasure in being Michelle from the block once again and being able to complain without seeming ungracious and annoying.

For those in her peer group, it looks very different. We've faced the same decisions and live with the consequences of the same choices. Want to go to a fancy law school and pass up the free ride at a lower tier school -- don't complain about the Prada price tag on the Prada degree you had to have. Want to take the big bucks corporate law job rather than the lower paying but more fulfilling job -- don't complain when they expect you to bill a gazillion hours doing grunt work rather than write the great American novel. Want to marry the hot shot guy or gal in the corner office and bask in his or her golden glow -- we've all seen the terms of that deal and what their family life is like. Did you really think that you, special little old you, were entitled to have the sweet without the sour?

MoC, might I inquire as to your area of expertise? I'm curious as to which science you're in.

Computer science, roughly speaking, so it's not like I'm a real scientist, just a failed mathematician. The particular stuff I do is pretty directly related to Actual Science, though, particularly geology (but I'm far far from a geologist).

Marquis,

Is it anything related to fractal networks?

Nope. I fear and distrust the complex plane.

Hmm, not that it really matters if not google-able, but I probably can't say more without making it fairly easy to figure out who I am, given the small number of people doing this stuff (not that anyone outside this obscure little area would have ever heard of me).

To this extent:

The Marquis De Carabas took his name from the fairy tale Puss In Boots

and the fact that being an academic scientist does have a flavor of arranger and information broker who deal[s] in favours and information I can say an unqualified yes.

But my clothes are much less baroquely crunchy-con; I like t-shirts and jeans. Funny how even most reactionary types likes me, if we're younger, don't really regret that in the sciences younger professors and their students are pretty much indistinguishable by dress.

Us scientists are actually pretty well-represented here, to my surprise. I was trained as a biochemist, though I'm in law at the moment.

Scientists like to argue about things we don't really know that much about, so we're natural audiences for political/social commentary.

TMoC,

I was wondering what the origin of your moniker was, and then just last week, I was reading the story Puss In Boots to my son, and lo and behold, there it was.

"Who wants another Bush term? That's what McCain is promising."

No he isn't. McCain, unlike Bush, would attempt to rein in spending; he'd be less dogmatic about tax cuts; more competent overall; and, since he has plenty of relationships with key Democrats in the Senate, would be more likely to achieve the entitlement reforms we need to maintain our sovereign debt rating.

I'm in plant ecology, myself (agro-ecology to be exact).

How's this -- my paycheck comes from a private university; the actual funding is mostly NASA. And let me tell you -- working "for" NASA is both very cool and a valuable way to increase one's conservative distaste for large bureaucracies, even when they manage to do impressive and arguably useful things.


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