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The Return of the Seventies (II)

27 Mar 2008 11:29 am

Peter Suderman has kind words for my essay on Hollywood in the shadow of Iraq, but he also writes:

[The piece] gives short shrift to one point: lame-brained politics or no, the crusading, politically-infused films of the 1970’s were simply better films–and that goes for the prestige pics as well as the B-movies ... It’s essential to note that today’s crop–at least in its most explicitly political incarnations–is by any standard rife with unambiguously rotten material. Lions for Lambs, Redacted, and In the Valley of Elah were painful to sit through. Even the better stuff, like the 2005 Clooney duo of Syriana and Good Night, and Good Luck were merely average–decent productions that fail to rise to the level of most cable television series. The only recent productions in this vein that stand out at all are the three Bourne films, which tend to use their political framework as a background and succeed mostly on the strength of their dazzling action setpieces.

Contrast this with the films of the 1970’s. There’s little comparison. Apocalypse Now may have little to do with the real-life experience of Vietnam, but it’s a hypnotic, singular vision from an accomplished cinematic artist working at the peak of his powers. All the President’s Men remains one of film’s best detective stories, and probably the best movie about Washington or journalism ever made. Middlebrow fare like The Parallax View ... sparkled in a way that today’s mainstream thrillers rarely accomplish. And even low-budget films like Death Race 2000 and The Warriors crackled with a sense of outrage, awareness, and energy. Movies like these, as well as the early works of directors like John Carpenter and David Cronenberg, indulged in exploitation flick shenanigans. But they also had a tremendous amount of fun, and maybe even managed to say something about the state of the world, too.

Heaven knows the politics of Hollywood in 1970’s were off the wall, perhaps even wackier and more radical than today’s. But somehow, they still managed to turn out movies that were far less irritating than the artless, self-satisfied liberal consciousness-raisers we seem to be stuck with now.

I largely agree, and tried to suggest as much in the original essay, though Peter may be right that I should have made the point more explicitly. I do think that our neo-Seventies moment has produced movies and (especially) television shows that rival the best work done in that decade - not only highbrow work like The Wire and The Sopranos, Zodiac and No Country For Old Men, but thrillers like the Bourne films (the first two, especially) and B-movies like 28 Days Later. (I think Danny Boyle's zombie film is a vast improvement on the work of George Romero, in fact, though that's a minority opinion.) But it's certainly true that the more explicitly politically-infused material is considerably weaker this time around, often to the point of embarrassment. One problem, as Chris Orr among others has suggested, is the lack of distance on the Iraq War: Films like The Deer Hunter and Apocalypse Now came out years after we had departed Vietnam, and as a result they didn't come across as attempts to grab the viewer by the lapels and convince them to END THE WAR NOW!!!!, which was what movies like Lions For Lambs and In the Valley of Elah often seemed intent on doing. The other problem, I think, is the one I tried to get it in my post on Michael Clayton: The best paranoid movies - The Parallax View, say, or The Conversation - wear well precisely because they're willing to "stop just short of realism, to build rotten, conspiracy-ridden worlds that overlap with our own but aren’t necessarily identical to it." Whereas films like Clayton or Syriana or The Constant Gardener are too real-world for their own good, and as a result their byzantine conspiracy theories feel like agitprop rather than art.

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Whereas films like Clayton or Syriana or The Constant Gardener are too real-world for their own good, and as a result their byzantine conspiracy theories feel like agitprop rather than art

Actually, they aren't real enough, because they don't explain the world in which this statement makes perfect sense.

Mr. Douthat,

I enjoyed your article. I had never thought of the similarities of the two time periods in film-making. Your piece makes it very apparent that this has been a concerted effort on the part of most of the film industry. Thanks for the accurate explanation of this trend

As an extremely avid film watcher I can tell you what I am looking for and I'm sure I'm not alone. I want an exhilirating story with heroes. Just as in the 70's, so today. Hollywood does not understand this need, but I don't totally blame them.

As an Objectivist I would be interested to read an article that went deeper in connecting the dots between what we get on tv or at the movies, and what is the dominant philsophy or sense of life of the American people. Perhaps you might consider writing it?

Thanks again for the informative article.

Aquinas Heard

I think anyone familiar with the work of Alfred Hitchcock would have a hard time attributing "the paranoid style" to a few films from the 1970s.

If you actually took the time to watch ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN again, you'd see it hasn't aged well and is not even that well made. It might have been an important work when it came out, but now it is only as good as the nostalgia that comes with it.

Same with PARALLAX VIEW. SYRIANA is a far, far superior film in every aspect.

And MICHAEL CLAYTON is such a superior film to PRESIDENT'S MEN that it's hardly even worth arguing about.

The idea that Alan Pakula's work somehow represents the best of the 70's is an outrageous and idiotic take on that time period. Dude is a hack, always has been.

What exactly does NO COUNTRY have to do with the seventies? Uh, try nothing.

The Bourne films are desperately overrated - I guess people are hungry for intelligent action films. Yeah, the first one was good, but the third one was just OK, really no better than your average episode of Alias or 24, and actually less compelling since your average viewer has more invested in the characters on Alias or 24.

Just another sign that TV is really where the creativity is flowing these days, not the big screen.

Ross, just plain brilliant. You mention Tears of the Sun but perhaps an even better example of pre "70's style paranoia" now infecting movies is Black Hawk Down since it was based on actual events. I used to be a major consumer of Hollywood entertainment but I find my options limited now. I go to netflicks and check out the new movies and it seems like everything in Hollywood is written for...Hollywood.

It seems like every movie description now a days begins like this "The lives of four strangers intertwine....blah...blah...blah...pick one:

drugs
homosexuality
xenophobia
corporate corruption

...blah...blah...blah...in this brave look at the dark side of American society."

Yet what was one of the biggest grossing movies in hollywood last year? Transformers. American soldiers were portrayed as heros, there was no moral equivalency between the good guys and bad guys, and we were allowed to hate the people (robots) who sincerely wanted us dead, as does al Qaeda. It included a rogue government agent but he didn't really represent the government -he was more like the idiots at Abu Ghraib, an outliar.

Another big movie was Spiderman 3 which included some patriotic visages even though it wasn't a central theme (look at the flags in the background).

Casino Royale was unabashedly patriotic to Britain, even while acknowledging the harshness of the real world fight against terrorism and how snapshots in time can play horribly in the free media even when the violence is aimed at a ruthless killer of innocents.


I am legend had the government partially responsible for creating (if I remember right) a deadly virus, but it was an accident in a program to fight cancer. Perhaps the parallel being that some think Iraq was the right thing to do for the wrong reasons (WMD and terrorism - although the terroism case is finally coming to light despite MSM twisting of the latest report.) Most people, even those who dont fully understand Saddam's support of terrorism just know instinctively that he was a bad guy who had to go. They just expected it to be over quicker. That doesnt mean they buy this "Bush lied, people died" nonsense.

Hollywood writers would do well to understand that.

Ray Robison is the author of Both In One Trench: Saddam's Secret Terror Documents

http://www.bothinonetrench.com

Of course, the "fact" that these are bad movies is actually just an opinion, and one which didn't belong with the rest of your article, which was more reportage. There are some real duds among them, and there are some great movies too-- The Constant Gardener is an excellent movie, Rendition is pretty good and underrated, and the third Bourne is the best, etc. But then, different strokes for different folks, which is why statements like "these are simply better" are so grating.

Also, you still seem almost breathtakingly hypocritical in your response to liberal movies. You constantly harangue Dana Stevens and other liberals for allowing their political opinions to color their critical commentary, and then you turn around and do precisely the same thing. That's the problem with those kind of complaints; none of us can be sure where our own political selves stop, and our critical selves begin, and we shouldn't insist on others trying to make some strangled distinction between the two. The next time you take a swipe at Dana Stevens, pause to consider why you don't like these movies.

Suderman said:

Heaven knows the politics of Hollywood in 1970’s were off the wall, perhaps even wackier and more radical than today’s. But somehow, they still managed to turn out movies that were far less irritating than the artless, self-satisfied liberal consciousness-raisers we seem to be stuck with now.

Maybe the political films of the '70s were better because the politics were wackier and more radical than today's. Syriana, Redacted, Lions for Lambs, In the Valley of Elah, etc., are liberal, and therefore take on centrists and conservatives. A lot of the best movies of the 1970s were genuinely left-wing, and therefore took on America. A leftist critique of America is a lot more interesting, as a political statement, than people in one part of the political mainstream criticizing people in another part of the political mainstream. It's also more interesting dramatically, since it raises the possibility that paranoia and hopelessness may be legitimate responses to the state of the nation and the world, rather than just poses.

perhaps an even better example of pre "70's style paranoia" now infecting movies is Black Hawk Down since it was based on actual events.

Interesting that you say that, considering the really remarkable amount of influence the US Army directly had in crafting that film. Whatever else is true I doubt that the Army is going around making movies bent towards distrust of government.

Most people, even those who dont fully understand Saddam's support of terrorism just know instinctively that he was a bad guy who had to go.

Uh, actually, most people are opposed to this war; they have been for some time; and even at the height of the war's popularity, it wasn't polling much higher than 60%.

Larison will stalk and kill a blogger for a single use of "byzantine" in the unexamined popular sense. Lock your doors tonight.

Fred said:

Interesting that you say that, considering the really remarkable amount of influence the US Army directly had in crafting that film. Whatever else is true I doubt that the Army is going around making movies bent towards distrust of government.

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perhaps my statement was ambigious, Black Hawk Down was favorable to the military and was an example of how movies were favorable to the military (just like Tears of the Sun) before the Iraq war. In other words, I am reinforcing Ross's point, just with what I think is a slightly better example not opposing his point.

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Fred said "Uh, actually, most people are opposed to this war; they have been for some time; and even at the height of the war's popularity, it wasn't polling much higher than 60%."

I have made a distinction that you missed. I said most people (and last time I checked 60% was still "most") supported removing Saddam. The war after removing Saddam is what lost public support in Iraq.

Most people supported kicking Saddam out, they just weren't expecting to be there fighting for so long. It is not the removal of Saddam that they object to. It is becoming embroiled in a stalemate like we were for some time. They thought we were right to topple Saddam, but not to stay and fight without a clear objective. Losing support because there is no clear gain from staying is a very different thing than losing support because we were morally wrong. Most movies today want to portray our government as immoral. Thats not what the average joe, even joe-six pack democrat thinks. He just thinks its' not worth the sacrifice. That doesn't mean he wants to watch the America bashing features from Hollywood leftists.

BTW
****spoiler alert****
Regarding No Country for Old Men

Did anyone else come away thinking the sheriff ratt-ed the main character out?

Ray,

Huh? how did you come up with that?

Again spoiler alert, it was pretty obvious they found him becasue his stupid mother in law told them where she was going, did you miss that scene?

Eric, I must have missed it, who did the mother in-law tell and what did she tell them? The mexican gangsters found him first and I didnt see anyone tell them where he was or that he was in that specific hotel. I did see the wife tell the sherrif though.

Perhaps the rise and fall of 1970s auteurs has less to do with politics than with the drugs they were taking? At the beginning, cocaine energized productions but within a few years it wrecked them.

Ray,

It was a pretty major scene, IIRC while she and her daughter we're at the bus station one of the mexicans who was following them helped her with her luggage and asked her where they were going and she told him.

Was that last part in McCarthy's book, or was it a Coen brothers addition. Syriana is really more
authentic than the Parallax View. It always struck me as odd, why they didn't film Bob Baer's
"See No Evil" or at least parts of it, rather than
this paen to Islamism. A good chunk of it, plays like the better stretches of the Kingdom,(CSI Beirut) One would likely be reminded of the case of Keith Hall, the CIA man who broke the first set of bombings, but was reprimanded because of
the death of one of his prisoners. The connections to Western oil companies and their
levantine brokers (ie: Roger Tamraz, who was an attendant at the Clinton coffee clatches. Actually, I know why, since Clooney consulted with Fadlallah, the Hezbollah religious authority behind the Beirut bombing;) and bought his lies, hook, line & sinker. Would we actually target a reformist Arab prince with a cruise missile. Hell it takes forever, for someone to draw a bead on a real terrorist (Laith al Libi,Adam Gadahn)

You write that:

The best paranoid movies - The Parallax View, say, or The Conversation - wear well precisely because they're willing to "stop just short of realism, to build rotten, conspiracy-ridden worlds that overlap with our own but aren’t necessarily identical to it." Whereas films like Clayton... are too real-world for their own good, and as a result their byzantine conspiracy theories feel like agitprop rather than art.

But, while I'll grant that corporate lawyers ordering hits on other corporate lawyers isn't so plausible in the context of a 'real-world' film, do you really think The Conversation stops short of realism? In what way? The corporation in that movie isn't fleshed out much, but I never feel that it's out of some parallel conspiracy-ridden world that isn't our own.

I've been disaffected from the movies for well over a decade but never more so than since 9/11. Hollywood's incessant whining about the evils of America in the face of the reality of the true evils in the world renders their product nonsensical, self-glorifying, poorly made and not worthy of my time or money. The last films I truly enjoyed were LOTR (and the 3rd one not so much at that). It's not just the repugnant themes of current films; it's the repugnant actors and directors/producers making them. I cannot stand to see or hear these egotists.

I just read on an Amazon blog that Vince Flynn's books with Mitch Rapp as our tip-of-the-spear GWOT hero may be made into movies. First of all, the theatrical film is dead, Hollywood just hasn't gotten the message yet. Flynn's books would fare much better on TV. Secondly, I do not trust a cabal of lefty nuts who never met a genocidal dictator they didn't love or a member of the military they didn't hate (not to mention any member of the CIA other than Valerie Look at Me! Plame) to do justice to Flynn's uncompromising work. Not to mention, destroying it by casting it with idiots and knaves.

Someone mentioned "Transformers." That was actually the biggest kick I've gotten in a while, other than "Hitch." As for "Spiderman 3," we nearly walked out and have sworn off future ones. What a dreadful, disjointed and boring mess. Hollywood can't even do a decent blockbuster anymore.

Having brought up TV series, can I just add how disappointed I am at how _Jericho_ turned out? Talk about your great potential thrown away on anti-corporate agitprop.. Who bombed the cities? A rich white guy working for a rich white guy corporation. Cop out city!!

I'm sure that has been touched upon, but I still think it was a waste of effort for all those folks who tried to get it back on TV..

Childern of Men went for a very interesting alternative to the trends of late. Strictly speaking it's not a political movie though a LOT of politcs are incidentally referenced throughout. It just presents a world that is, with a situation that just is, and there's no use blaming a certain group or ideology. All of them seem to just make things worse. Human nature at the base is forced to be brought out in the light. That allowed them to focus more on how everyone reacts to the situation, rather than the who, how, and why of the situation. Throughout the film, it is ambiguous who are the white hats and who are the black hats. With something so cataclysmic, it almost doesn't matter.

And the Human Project, the Tomorrow... it was a matter of faith and enduring sorrows and loss to let a seed of faith grow into a full grown tree of hope. There is another world unaffected by the tragedies and irrelevant blame games of this world.

Actually Children of Men is a good example how Hollywood completely misreads the very source material; in word & deed. The situation portrayed in the film; is very much like what a land which is overpopulated would be like; why would there be mass migration if birthrates are falling all over the world. It was essentially Blade Runner without the hightrises, a grimier Soylent Green. Moreover, how would a reversal of the population
statistics solve things in the long run.

About the whole panoply of faux 70s redux films, the remarkable thing is how fake they look. Comic
books for progressives; Michael Clayton, Syriana,
& Jason Bourne. whereas as Elah, Redacted,
Rendition, et al is more like bad 70sexploitation films. A real version like Syriana would depict how the U.S. is trying to bring some decent regimes in Afghanistan and Iraq; but is being thwarted by forces in Iran. Syria, Saudi Arabia; who really have no alternative. You couldn't salvage the Constant Gardener, which eerily came out around the time a real event happened in that same area; the bombings of the US Embassy in Tanzania & Kenya. Ironically, for all itsslapstick
elements, Three Kings is a much more honest view of events in the region (that has to go down the memory hole; because it was the realpolitik betrayal of the Shia and Kurds that led to many of the events we face now in the region.

The Bourne book to film transition is an interesting microcosm of this prism at work, In the books,Although Ludlum subscribes to the MIC
thesis; in Bourne, and even some of his predecessors like Joel Converse, there is a method to their madness. Much like Jack Bauer,
the T.V. equivalent they are driven by loss, & pain. They don't want to do it, but they have to do the job; no mstter the physical,psychological, & emotional toll to those around them. David Webb's adopting the Bourne persona; an American counterpart and foil for Carlos is driven by a real motivation; the death of his wife and family. Whatever he does, he does for a reason,
Bourne/Webb does things because he's been programmed to do them; there's no real reason behind his actions.

Ross, I liked this commentary--thanks for writing a thinkpiece where, with regards to film, you actually know what you're talking about. Suderman, not so much: "Syriana and Good Night, and Good Luck were merely average–decent productions that fail to rise to the level of most cable television series." I can't help but disagree; "GNAGL" was one of the best films of the year, helped along by an excellent performance from David Strathairn

Ray, it's very difficult to read any political subtext into "Transformers" (particularly since one of its screenwriters, John Rogers, is a well-known lefty)--its success is due in part to its having a massive advertising budget, in part being based on a popular TV series, and partly to its not sucking as badly as other Michael Bay films.

"It is not the removal of Saddam that they object to. It is becoming embroiled in a stalemate like we were for some time. They thought we were right to topple Saddam, but not to stay and fight without a clear objective."--The problem is that you couldn't get one without the other. Many people argued before the war began that trying to remove Saddam would lead to a stalemate, and that we didn't have a clear objective. It would be worth asking why these clear-headed strategic thinkers were marginalized or ignored.

I again have to point out that people referring to "Hollywood" as a single-minded industry tend to come across as having no clue what they're talking about (at least to people like me, who have some experience in movies). "Hollywood" is an industry made up of thousands of different people with thousands of different individual ideas, talents, and agendas, all of whom know one thing--you can't get anywhere if you don't make a profit. So that comes first and foremost. To write that *Hollywood* can't make a blockbuster anymore just because Sam Raimi & his screenwriters had trouble dealing with the studio (the studio insisted on shoehorning Venom into the movie) is just foolish.

Peg C., is there a reason you're taking a potshot at Valerie Plame? She was a covert operative working hard to investigate intelligence on Iraq; her cover was deliberately blown, endangering her life and the lives of over 100 American agents who used that cover, Brewster Jennings. You seem to be angry at her for going public *after* she had her cover blown, and for seeking justice from those who wronged her; bringing powerful, rich people to justice generally involves getting publicity at some point or another. And please don't claim that it was only Richard Armitage who outed her, accidentally: remember, "Two senior white house aides..."

One she was a declared agent; thanks to Ames and the U.S. Govt who accidently outed her to the Cuban DGI by 1995! The front company from whence
she operated; and made a campaign contribution from; was so flimsy that it could be easily identified; there are accounts the Turks knew about it as recently as 2000. Then she pretends
to be the martyr on the cover of "Vanity Fair".
Meanwhile, people who actually risk their lives,livelyhoods, either in Iraq, Afghanistan,
or even those who provided their companies in order to facilitate the rendition efforts; they're named, sued, their efforts discredited.

Hollywood isn't a monolith, but the major studios keep churning out one bomb after another; the Bourne series, saves it self because of it's break ness pace and nauseating camera angles. Whether it's the "Dixie Chicks" suffering for their stupidity and bad judgement toward their democraphics, a film that actually makes the case, against operations in Afghanistan! you know the war theysay they support. This latest stinker, "Stop Loss" is also based on Afghanistan
of all things.

"is there a reason you're taking a potshot at Valerie Plame? She was a covert operative working hard to investigate intelligence on Iraq"
Posted by G. | March 29, 2008 7:27 PM

And you know G, they tell you in the CIA manual that when you are deep undercover, you make your spouse go on super-duper, secret CIA missions and then write an op-ed piece about the trip for a major newspaper.

stealthy........

Nobody is buying this nonsense anymore.