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Podcast To The People

09 Apr 2008 09:19 pm

In our latest foray into web audio, Marc and I discuss the gulf, or lack thereof, between McCain and Obama on Iraq policy, and then the Ambinder shortlist for veep in both parties. You can listen right here, or you can download it from iTunes - where you can also subscribe, if you're so inclined, to the broader run of Atlantic podcasts, political and otherwise.











Comments (6)

Oof these MP3s you embed always wreak havoc with my browser.

here's a work around to the embedded mp3s
1. view source
2. search for the phrase "mp3"
3. copy the url and put it in a local htm file as a link
4. open the local htm file, right-click on the link and save the mp3 locally

here's a work around to the embedded mp3s
1. view source
2. search for the phrase "mp3"
3. copy the url and put it in a local htm file as a link
4. open the local htm file, right-click on the link and save the mp3 locally

I think it is silly to say that there is little or "no difference" between barack's plan for the "immediate end to the war" rhetoric and john mccain's support for the surge and staying there until we have a stable iraq.

Words Matter, Ross. Especially in this election.

sure, obama's advisers try to reassure dupes like amby that obama doesn't really mean what he says, just like goolsbee tries to undercut his boss on the NAFTA issue. but i hear nothing from obama about staying in iraq with a sizable number of troops (and 80,000 is a huge number) other than a "strike force" plan that may or may not be stationed in iraq.

either obama is lying to the public, or his advisors are.

and here comes ross, who doesn't like bush anyway, and not really a fan of mccain either, saying mccain doesn't really intend to keep the required number of troops necessary to win in iraq after the elections because of the "strain in the military". If "troop strain" was the deciding factor in petraeus and mccain's decision to advocate the surge, why wait until after the elections to lower the troop levels when doing them now would be the more popular (and responsible) thing to do?

i've never heard mccain advocate anything other than either a troop surge or listening to petraeus re troop levels in iraq.

so it's really unfair, ross, to essentially call both of these candidates liars. when only one candidate saying one thing, while his advisors secretly have meetings with concerned parties and reassuring them the opposite.

I think it is silly to say that there is little or "no difference" between barack's plan for the "immediate end to the war" rhetoric and john mccain's support for the surge and staying there until we have a stable iraq.

Words Matter, Ross. Especially in this election.

sure, obama's advisers try to reassure dupes like amby that obama doesn't really mean what he says, just like goolsbee tries to undercut his boss on the NAFTA issue. but i hear nothing from obama about staying in iraq with a sizable number of troops (and 80,000 is a huge number) other than a "strike force" plan that may or may not be stationed in iraq.

either obama is lying to the public, or his advisors are.

and here comes ross, who doesn't like bush anyway, and not really a fan of mccain either, saying mccain doesn't really intend to keep the required number of troops necessary to win in iraq after the elections because of the "strain in the military". If "troop strain" was the deciding factor in petraeus and mccain's decision to advocate the surge, why wait until after the elections to lower the troop levels when doing them now would be the more popular (and responsible) thing to do?

i've never heard mccain advocate anything other than either a troop surge or listening to petraeus re troop levels in iraq.

so it's really unfair, ross, to essentially call both of these candidates liars. when only one candidate is guilty of saying one thing, while his advisors secretly have meetings with concerned parties and reassuring them the opposite re NAFTA or iraq.