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The Google Effect

12 Jun 2008 11:36 am

The thesis Nicholas Carr advances in the latest Atlantic - that the internet is changing our reading and thinking habits, and not necessarily for the better - prompts the following response from Max Boot :

For my part, I haven’t noticed my attention flagging because of the Internet. What I have noticed is that the Internet makes it much easier to produce longer pieces of writing. Google, especially, is invaluable, and not only because it enables anyone to look up obscure facts with a few keystrokes. Another function of Google is less famous but growing in importance for those of us in the book-writing biz — namely its “book” search function. Google has digitized thousands of volumes, allowing researchers to easily find obscure tomes. While no preview is available of many recently published books, and others offer only a “snippet view,” growing numbers of books whose copyright have lapsed are available in “full” search mode, meaning that you can, if you so desire, read the entire book online — or, more likely, print it out.

I have found this to be in invaluable resource while researching my new history of guerrilla warfare. It used to take me a long time to get books via interlibrary loan, and then the 19th century volumes usually arrived in very poor conditions. Now for nothing more than the cost of the paper and ink I can get printer-fresh copies of General Phil Sheridan’s memoirs, George Macaulay Trevelyan’s classic volumes on Garibaldi, or the Rev. James Gordon’s “History of the Rebellion in Ireland in the Year 1798.” Moreover, if necessary, I can use Google to search for keywords inside the books.

This is a huge and growing boon for scholars or interested readers, and it is the product not of a traditional nonprofit library but of a decidedly profit-making business. Thanks, Google, for making me-and lots of others-smarter. Of course whether readers raised on the Internet will be interested in reading what I or other authors produce is another question.

As the last line suggests, I don't think there's actually necessarily a huge tension between Boot's argument and Carr's thesis; indeed, Carr himself notes that the internet has been "a godsend" to his ability to do research for his writing projects. I've made a related argument in the context of blogs, arguing that the web is very good for certain forms of writing - the highly political and the highly personal chief among them - and very bad for others; by extension, I'd say that the web is very good for certain forms of book-writing (shorter forms on the one hand, and forms that require large amounts of research on the other ) and very bad for others (forms that require large amounts of serious reflection to write, and to read). I think the two books I've written - a short memoir and a short political book - are classic internet-age books, in the sense that they're the sort of books that writers are conditioned to write, and readers are conditioned to expect. (And I say that with neither shame nor satisfaction.) The sort of books that Boot writes - longer works of history, with arguments woven in - are in a more complicated position: As Boot says, it's vastly easier to produce them in the age of Amazon and Google Books, but I suspect that the Google effect that Carr's talking about - the declining patience for long-form, serious, and dense prose - means that the audience for 600-page history books that aren't about a Founding Father is shrinking apace. And the sort of authors whose works tend to stand the test of time - the great novelists and poets, the philosophers and theologians - are getting it from both directions: The Google effect makes it harder to write War and Peace, and harder to read it.

Comments (9)

Ross, your last two lines are intriguing. I'm 33 and have lived through the rise of the internet, being an early adopter of computers in general, and in college when broadband started to explode. For the last half of my 20s, I would say that I agree with your conclusion — that my internet-infused reading habits made it harder to read Great Books.

I have much less trouble now -- over the last couple years, I've been able to dive back into classic works of literature with much gusto -- and yet I haven't slowed down my internet habits, which include blogging, obsessive reading of others' blogs, and editing my own online journal.

Why? Well, I think that the more one searches for sturdy perspectives and solid, enduring thought to base one's online-expressed views upon, the more one's path simply leads back to those works that have stood the test of time.

Mortimer Adler and Robert Hutchins had it right -- in the West we have a Great Conversation through the ages, from Homer to Joyce. Inevitably, as one ambles through the internet looking for truth, knowledge, and right opinions, one starts to stumble upon this Conversation, and I think seek to participate in it. With the first step of that, of course, learning what exactly this Conversation is all about.

My local paper, perhaps in response to competition from the internet, has unified its stories instead of breaking them into pieces throughout the newspaper. I no longer have to flip to "SINGING DOGS on 16A." The old papers used to make you jump all over the place to read the whole story, but few complained about that.

Excellent Matthew, it doesn't follow that using Internet tools -which I take full advantage of for business and pleasure- prevents one from reading dense classical and modern literature.

Personally, just now, I am tackling Plato's Laws along with Tim Keller's The Reason for God: Belief in an Age of Skepticism.

I can't watch old movies I used to enjoy, since Quentin Tarantino. The old classics just move too slowly. But I don't agonize over whether this has made me stupid.

I'm a historian, and I think the greatest thing that the web has given us so far is Google Books. The ability to read full texts from the nineteenth century online, has made a huge difference in my research. Since finishing my MA, I've been cut off from University amenities (unlimited interlibrary loan, JSTOR and the other research tools we take for granted in academia). So Google Books has been a life-saver.

I'm also a writer and an avid reader. I think the pressure blogging, IM-ing and the other accelerated media put on traditional prose is a positive one: get to the point. Readers demand a bigger payoff for their investment of time, and the proliferation of media and content makes it a buyers' market. But I don't think it will kill the novel. I'm looking forward to reading Rushdie's latest. There are still themes, settings, plots, and character arcs that require a thousand pages. I don't think we're going to stop reading these types of stories. What we'll stop reading are the boring, didactic, formulaic books that have only one point to make, and insist on dragging you through a thousand pointless pages before they pay off.

This is a huge and growing boon for scholars or interested readers, and it is the product not of a traditional nonprofit library but of a decidedly profit-making business. Thanks, Google, for making me-and lots of others-smarter.

Max Boot clearly doesn't know the difference between "smarter" and "more knowledgeable." Having read some of his work it comes as no surprise.

Furthermore, Boot does a disservice by throwing out a red herring (another specialty of his). The point of the internet reducing the span of human attention is unrelated to its ability to serve as a lending library.

I dislike Boot immensely as I do most warmongers.

I wonder if it's such a bad thing if Google makes it harder to write War and Peace? It seems to me that Tolstoy could have used an editor - or at least a bit less time in which to write. But maybe I'm just a philistine...

After reading Carr's thesis, I had the following thoughts:

I both agree and disagree. A PBS special
(http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/apegenius/saxe.html) recently discussed
how humans appear to be unique amoung earth's creatures in their inate
desire to teach. This desire is embodied (as I recall) in the simple
gesture of pointing, as in, "Look over there", a gesture only humans
use. The act of teaching creates a "ratcheting" affect in human
knowledge--each generation can build on what has been learned already
rather than starting from scratch.

So I see the Internet as yet more of the same sort of "ratcheting" of
humanity's knowlege (and I think wisdom, too, for those seeking it).
It goes a long way to even the playing field--more people than ever
have access to more, well, "stuff" than ever. I agree that this is
likely to change our thinking and our brains. But I think rather than
making us stupid, it will make us smart in different ways. But I'm an
optimist. :-)

I can suggest a study aid to help absorb a lengthy discussion of a
subject (in whatever medium)--a suggestion that isn't news to
educators: write an essay. Expressing a subject in my own words won't
guarantee that I'll learn it, but it greatly increases my chances.

I agree with Boot. The internet has widened the market place of ideas. The supply and quality of the ideas has gone up in the sense that more books and papers are available and more commentary on them too. Now someone can laser in more easily on the exact topic they're interested in, and thanks to Google and Amazon they can more quickly discern what what literature is most relevant and of the highest quality.

I don't think this is as quite a big a break from the past as Carr thinks. Before the internet, if you were researching a subject you'd zero in on the information you wanted by consulting a book's table of contents, checking indexes, bibliographies, library subject cards and so forth. Google and Amazon have simply sped up this process and reduced the waiting time- which means less time wasted.

But as Matthew points out there's still going to be a market for Adler's Great Books and long fiction and non-fiction. You don't read War and Peace by skimming and skipping. Nor do you read a biography or history book by jumping around and interrupting the flow of the author's argument/narrative.

The downside of Google and the internet is the tunnel vision they create. The hyper-personalization they foster means less exposure to things that normally one wouldn't consider or read. Instead of reading the NY Times and allowing the editor to guide the reader, the reader can now go into Google News and set their news preferences and only read stories about "Obama 'VP search'". Similarly, by searching through books and journals using Google the reader is encouraged to get just a snapshot of the argument rather then view the whole picture. They search "Guantanamo habeas corpus", go to the pages or paragraphs where they get hits, and then don't bother with the rest.

So it's a mixed bag, but I think like with all technology it's a matter of using it responsibly.

I am hopeful that Amazon kindle (and similar technology that will probably follow in the future) will, by reducing the cost of publishing, make it easier to publish low-demand but intellectually valuable books.

By the way, Ross, you need to tell your publisher to publish your book in kindle format!


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